In this episode of Eusebius on TimesLIVE, CSA's Lawson Naidoo joined the platform to explain their decision that it is compulsory for the Proteas to take a knee before their matches in a show of anti-racism solidarity.

McKaiser challenged Naidoo to explain what value such symbolism has if it is not voluntary. Naidoo conceded that the moral and political value of symbolism is diminished when it is mandatory.

Naidoo also confirmed that this new policy directive had been taken without consulting the players.

Sunday Times columnist and former Democratic Alliance parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko is the latest guest on Eusebius on TimesLIVE. They started off the conversation with Mazibuko reflecting on biases in media coverage of politics, including reinscribing violence against women politicians into the public sphere.

A big part of the dialogue focused on Mazibuko's hindsight reflections on her career in politics, before she critiqued the current leadership including an emphatic and fiery answer to the host asking her if she could vote for John Steenhuisen if he ran in her ward.

The interview ended with explorations of Mazibuko's views on political communication and tonality and, finally, whether abstaining from voting is sensible at all.

Veteran political analyst and elections expert Ebrahim Fakir (Director of Programmes at the Auwal Socio-economic Research Institute (ASRI) is the first guest on Eusebius on TimesLIVE. In a lively discussion about the Democratic Alliance's elections strategy, Eusebius and Ebrahim explored whether or not the DA has a coherent strategy, and whether it is, as former DA leader Tony Leon recently argues, based on pragmatism rather than identifiable political principles and values. Ebrahim explains why he thinks the DA's approach to the forthcoming elections is ineffective, and he and Eusebius puzzle through the dynamics of the party that stop it from capitalising on the governance weaknesses of the African National Congress.