Sara joins Wayne again for this brief conversation about how difficult it is to hide your struggles from people you love and how much lighter the load becomes when you have someone who cares alongside you. Religious performance taught us to hide our doubts and failures from others as a means of protecting our reputation. And yet, there is so much to be gained by living in the light with people who can hold your heart well.

Podcast Notes:

* There was video made of this recording session.

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