The guys met up for this chat before Bernard's brutal crash while he was prepping for the first World Cup of the year, and that news hit even harder than usual considering how pumped Bernard was for this season. We know he'll be back.

This conversation goes deep. Bernard opens up about the toll that crashing has taken on his body and mindset, and what it really feels like to pick yourself up again when you’re no longer the youngest guy on the start list. He reflects on how age has changed his approach to risk, racing, and recovery — and why, even now, he’s still finding ways to stay fast, focused, and fired up.

The episode also tackles Red Bull Hardline, a race Bernard has become synonymous with. He shares his honest thoughts on how the event has evolved and the growing unease among riders over how information was shared — or not shared! — when it came to new lines in Tasmania this year. All we've got to say is... bring on Wales.

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