In this timely and honest conversation, we sit down with pastor and author Joshua Ryan Butler to talk about how the church can engage with politics in a way that reflects the heart of Jesus. Drawing from his book Party Crashing, we explore the tensions of modern and postmodern political frameworks, the spiritual stakes of polarization, and how unity in Christ can be a witness in a fractured world. We reflect on what’s happened post-election, how online and offline spaces shape our convictions, and what it means to be a faithful presence in our communities. Together, we lean into the hope and formation that comes through real relationships, local engagement, and a posture of love.

Key Takeaways

1. Unity is sacred: Jesus prayed for the unity of the Church before going to the cross—how we relate across differences matters deeply to Him.
2. Real-life relationships ground us: Online discourse is often dominated by postmodern extremes, but face-to-face relationships tend to be more grounded and bridge-building.
3. There’s more than just red, blue, or silence: We’re not limited to partisanship or passivity—creative, faithful political engagement is possible and needed.
4. Jesus reconciled enemies: Following Jesus means learning to walk together across significant ideological divides, like zealots and tax collectors in the same community.
5. Faithful presence > flashy platforms: Lasting impact comes through everyday faithfulness and local civic engagement, not just national elections.
6. Posture matters as much as position: How we show up—with humility, curiosity, and love—often speaks louder than what we believe.
7. Hope in a bigger story: Remembering God’s sovereignty through history can calm our anxiety and remind us that the Church will endure.

Website: https://joshuaryanbutler.com/

Instagram: @joshbutler.pdx

Facebook: @JoshuaButlerpdx

========================================================

We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.  

Until next time, be the leader you would follow!

 

Grateful for you,

Jeff & Terra

 

To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to:

 

INSTAGRAM

@TerraMattson

@Living_Wholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

 

FACEBOOK

@WeAreLivingWholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

 

WEBSITES

LivingWholehearted.com

TerraMattson.com 

MyCourageousGirls.com

 

RESOURCES

Shrinking the Integrity Gap 

Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course 

Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in Grace

Dear Mattsons 

Helping Moms Raise Confident Daughters

Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/living-wholehearted-podcast-with-jeff-and-terra/donations