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What if payment chains are the “AWS moment for money”?
Simon Taylor — fintech veteran, ex-Barclays crypto lead, and author of FinTech Brainfood — joins Bankless to map the convergence of fintech and crypto. From stablecoins serving as the Trojan horse for tokenisation to Tempo’s push for a payments chain, Simon explains why finance is on the brink of its biggest infrastructure shift since Visa.
We cover the rise of payments L1s, the regulatory roulette of stablecoins, and whether neutrality and permissionlessness can survive in corporate-led networks. Plus, Simon breaks down the differences between stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and CBDCs — and explains why the future of finance is already being rebuilt on-chain.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
4:28 FinTech Meets Crypto
9:47 The AWS Moment for Money
14:34 Why Payments Are Broken
21:25 Stablecoins in Action
25:59 The Rise of Payments Chains
38:11 Neutrality, Permissionlessness & The Libra Lesson
52:48 Stablecoins, Tokenized Deposits & CBDCs
59:08 The Stablecoin Boom Ahead
1:12:24 Is FinTech Becoming Crypto?
1:15:22 Tokenization Beyond Payments
1:36:25 Agents & AI Commerce
1:40:33 Closing Thoughts
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RESOURCES
Simon Taylor
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FinTech Brainfood
https://www.fintechbrainfood.com/
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Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here:
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What if payment chains are the “AWS moment for money”?
Simon Taylor — fintech veteran, ex-Barclays crypto lead, and author of FinTech Brainfood — joins Bankless to map the convergence of fintech and crypto. From stablecoins serving as the Trojan horse for tokenisation to Tempo’s push for a payments chain, Simon explains why finance is on the brink of its biggest infrastructure shift since Visa.
We cover the rise of payments L1s, the regulatory roulette of stablecoins, and whether neutrality and permissionlessness can survive in corporate-led networks. Plus, Simon breaks down the differences between stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and CBDCs — and explains why the future of finance is already being rebuilt on-chain.
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https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium
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BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS:
🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi
https://bankless.cc/Frax
🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN
https://bankless.cc/unichain
🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK
https://bankless.cc/Mantle
🎩DEGEN | JOIN THE COMMUNITY
https://bankless.cc/degen
🌳KGEN | REQUEST A DEMO
https://bankless.cc/KGEN-podcast
🏄 SURF | UPGRADE YOUR CRYPTO RESEARCH
https://bankless.cc/surf
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
4:28 FinTech Meets Crypto
9:47 The AWS Moment for Money
14:34 Why Payments Are Broken
21:25 Stablecoins in Action
25:59 The Rise of Payments Chains
38:11 Neutrality, Permissionlessness & The Libra Lesson
52:48 Stablecoins, Tokenized Deposits & CBDCs
59:08 The Stablecoin Boom Ahead
1:12:24 Is FinTech Becoming Crypto?
1:15:22 Tokenization Beyond Payments
1:36:25 Agents & AI Commerce
1:40:33 Closing Thoughts
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RESOURCES
Simon Taylor
https://x.com/sytaylor/
FinTech Brainfood
https://www.fintechbrainfood.com/
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Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here:
https://www.bankless.com/disclosures

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