John stays way too long at the butter pump and yearns for a simpler time when our superheroes could be a bit pudgier. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares some of his pet peeves while traveling and tells the epic story of the man who played a chess match to save his own life. 

Plus, a conversation about how getting older can make us more contemplative when it comes to things like traffic. 

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