In Part 2 of my convo with Tyler, we’re diving into the number one thing that has completely transformed our marriage. It’s something we’re deeply passionate about—and honestly, it might surprise you. We reflect on how we went from Netflix nights to stepping into something that gave our relationship new purpose and depth. We share the story of how it all began, what we’ve learned along the way, and how it continues to challenge and shape us. Whether you're single, dating, or married, we hope this episode encourages you to think about what it could look like to say “yes” to something bigger—together.

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In this hilarious and very transparent episode, Mac invites her husband Tyler onto the podcast to finally share their full love story! From an age-gap romance and a snowstorm to a Zoom dating event with 300 women watching, this episode is packed with all the juicy, awkward, and sweet moments that brought them together. Whether you're single and waiting, dating with questions, or just love a good rom-com plot—this one's for you. We had so much fun recording this one and we hope you love it.

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This week, we’re joined by the one and only Rachel Awtrey—podcaster, mama, and joy-finder extraordinaire! Rachel is calling in from Birmingham, Alabama and brings such a refreshing perspective on embracing life fully, even when it doesn’t look how you expected. We talk about military life, motherhood, writing her upcoming book, and how she’s learned to chase joy through every season—from grief and moving nine times, to walks in the heat, trampolines, and all the real talk in between.

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We're are back for Part 2 of their dating deep dive, and this time they're going even deeper into your real-life dating situations. From nostalgic throwbacks about dating memories to giving tough love on "situationships," we are get candid and practical. Kenz shares never-before-revealed details about her early relationship with Josh (yes, including that wild second date!), while Mac opens up about why breaks in relationships can actually be healthy. We tackle everything from age-gap relationships to making the first move, and offer the kind of godly dating advice we wish we'd gotten ourselves. Whether you’re crushing, confused, or totally in love—this episode is for you!

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This one’s for the single girl in the thick of dating, the girl with the situationship that won’t quit, and the one waiting for the right guy to come along. Mac and Kenz are throwing it back to their iconic "Help You Make a Move" segment—reading YOUR stories, your dating questions, and giving their best big sister advice with lots of laughs and honest truth. They talk about crushing on a guy from campus ministry, dating someone not all in for Jesus, and navigating jealousy in the season of singleness. You’ll walk away with courage, clarity, and some seriously helpful tips for stepping into dating with intentionality and faith.

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Flashbacks to Our Single Girl Era

“Help You Make a Move” Is Back!

First DM: The Homework Crush with No Clarity

Practical Tips for Starting a Hard Conversation

Why Rejection Isn’t the End – It’s Growth

When You Like a Guy Who’s Not Fully for Jesus

Hard Truth: You Can’t Date for Potential

The Resentment of Singleness at 26

Radical Honesty with God + Friends

Final Encouragement: Your Story Is Beautiful

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In this episode, we sit down with Megan from the She Lives Purposefully podcast for a fun and faith-filled convo on what it looks like to live purposefully—especially in seasons that don’t look how you expected. Megan shares her journey into motherhood, her shift in identity and daily rhythms, and how God is teaching her to find purpose in the mundane. Whether you're in a new season, wrestling with change, or just trying to live more intentionally—this one's for you!

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Meet Megan from She Lives Purposefully

Marriage, Motherhood, and Life Before Donnie

From Blog to Podcast: How She Lives Purposefully Began

The Transition into Motherhood + Letting Go of Hustle Culture

When Productivity and Purpose Clash

Finding Meaning in the Mundane

Practical Tips to Live Purposefully—Right Where You Are

Encouragement for Every Season

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Hey For The Girl Fam! In this episode, we’re diving into a heartfelt and hilarious (in our opinion) conversation about the people who’ve deeply impacted our lives—from spiritual mentors to Instagram follows. We share stories about Mac’s pastor dad, Kenz’s love for Francis Chan, and the dynamic duo Jesse Itzler and Sara Blakely. Plus, we reflect on how intentionality, discipline, and humility play a powerful role in shaping who we become. You’ll also hear all about our favorite weekly email (yes, it involves bikini waxes), what it looks like to pursue excellence without chasing fame, and how a single sermon can radically change your life.

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Weekly Email Hype + “We’re Not Friends Anymore”

Why Mac’s Dad is Her #1 Inspiration

Lessons from 40 Years of Ministry

Francis Chan and the “Battlefield” Faith

Jesse Itzler, Sara Blakely & Intentional Living

Marriage Retreats and Family Rhythms

The Impact of Jamie Winship & Radical Obedience

Wrapping Up with Gratitude + Growth

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Hey girls! We’re getting real today (and yeah, a little exposed!) about our biggest money mistakes and what we’ve learned about stewarding our finances with faith, wisdom, and a whole lot of grace. From surprise IRS letters and tanked credit scores to paying off student loans and learning to live within our means, we’re sharing the honest stories that shaped our financial journeys. Plus, have some major money tips for the single girl.

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Our Real Paychecks & Ministry Life: A behind-the-scenes look at our salaries, starting Delight, and learning to live with less.

Kenz’s Credit Score Crash: One $60 mistake with a website subscription that cost a whole lot more—learn from us!

Mac’s $85,000 IRS Scare: The nonprofit tax mistake that almost derailed a wedding—yep, that happened.

Rent Regrets & Wise Living: How paying less in rent gave us more freedom and why we’re passionate about not being “house poor.”

Debt-Free Wins & Marriage Prep: Paying off student loans, building savings, and entering marriage on solid ground.

Moving & Missing the Mail: A warning about forwarding your mail when moving—especially when the IRS is involved!

Setting Up Finances Like a Pro: What we wish we knew when opening accounts and tracking subscriptions.

Why Young Adults Struggle With Finances: The reality of learning the hard way and our encouragement to take small steps now.

Encouragement for Your Financial Journey: You don’t have to have it all figured out—God is in the process with you.

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In this episode, we catch up with our longtime friend Natalie Firsker, and wow—you’re going to be so inspired by her story. Natalie shares how a mission trip at age 12 sparked a lifelong passion for serving in Mexico, and how that radical “yes” turned into leading a nonprofit, The Aloe Family, that now spans across multiple countries. We chat about what it looks like to live a faith that’s costly, full of sacrifice, and beautifully spirit-led—even when it’s wildly different from the people around you. Plus, Natalie spills a little about life with her NFL husband and how they’re figuring out marriage, ministry, and mission all at once. It’s honest, fun, and full of practical encouragement for anyone asking: “What does it look like to radically follow Jesus right where I am?”

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The Start of a Calling: Natalie shares how her heart for Mexico began with a mission trip and one little girl who changed everything.

From Trips to Transformation: What began as a yearly visit became a lifelong mission to build bridges between cultures and create sustainable change.

Life on the Move: We talk day-in-the-life in Mexico, Columbia, Nashville, and airports everywhere—and how the Spirit leads when you live out of a suitcase.

The Aloe Family: Natalie breaks down what her nonprofit actually does, the programs they run, and how they stay rooted in people-first ministry.

Radical Faith Looks Different: We dive into the tension of living a life that doesn’t look like everyone else’s—and why that’s actually the beauty of following Jesus.

Ministry + Marriage: Natalie opens up about life with her husband Anthony, an NFL player, and how they make two different worlds beautifully overlap.

Boundaries & Burnout: How she protects her peace, prioritizes rest, and keeps her soul healthy in a demanding season.

What Radical Faith Really Means: We close out with a powerful reflection on what it means to say “yes” to Jesus in the big and small, the easy and the scary.

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In this episode, we sit down with one of Kenz's oldest and dearest friends, Courtney Slavinski — the girl who literally led her to Jesus! From swing dancing to homeschooling four kids, Courtney shares how saying a simple yes to the Holy Spirit turned into hosting 200+ high school students in her living room every week. Yep, you read that right. She and her husband Steve started Waygo Youth — a grassroots movement that’s discipling teens in radical, Spirit-filled ways right from their home. We talk motherhood, ministry, marriage, and what it really looks like to live a life fully surrendered to Jesus. Prepare to be convicted, encouraged, and fired up to live on mission — wherever God has you!

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Courtney’s Faith Journey From knowing about God to truly knowing Him 

Wago Youth Begins A few girls on a couch turns into a full-blown youth movement… in her living room!

Ministry & Motherhood How Courtney juggles four kids, a husband, and a house full of teenagers

Discipleship in the Everyday The heart behind Waygo

Ministry with Her Husband Steve’s swing dancing, zipline-building, game-leading role in the Waygo family.

Pushing Back on “I’m Too Busy” What Courtney would say to moms who feel like they don’t have anything to offer beyond their family.

When Obedience Feels Too Costly Real-life frustrations, spiritual warfare, and trusting God when things get hard.

What Radical Faith Actually Looks Like Not a side hustle. Not just for the bold. But the only way to follow Jesus.

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