FP&A Today

FP&A Today

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  • Doing Capitalism Better: Cotopaxi CFO Gary Bowen

    Most CFOs don’t build  models where 1% of their company’s net sales (not profits) are given away instantly “right from the top” to help alleviate poverty. But then Cotopaxi is not like most companies. In this episode Cotopaxi CFO, Gary Bowen, explains the pivotal role played by finance and FP&A in “doing capitalism better” while also seeking to become a billion-dollar brand - alongside other outdoor names such as Patagonia, North Face and Columbia. This includes an ambitious new strategy explained by Bowen to move beyond digital sales and into retail–and FP&A’s central role in making this happen.

    In this episode Gary Bown CFO of Cotopaxi reveals:

    • Starting as operations in customer service and lessons for finance 
  • How I began as a CFO
  • When good finance talent leaves 
  • Doing fractional CFO services and when businesses need to bring in a CFO
  • Being a "Let’s Go" CFO (vs Department of No)
  • 1% of Net Sales (not profits) given away, and working that into the model 
  • Cotopaxi digital retail metrics explained vs retail metrics
  • Moving to opening up retail stores and a four wall profitability model 
  • How to balance investors with giving back principles 
  • Getting Cotopaxi to a billion dollar company 
  • Flipping the script from private label to branding at Ogio (and learning the power of branding)
  • Flying airplanes, Iron Man competition, and George Washington
  • Follow Gary Bowen on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-bowen-769a7/

    44 min
  • From Leading Data Science at Facebook to becoming a CEO: Kat Orekhova

    Kat Orekhova is Co-Founder & CEO of Vareto, a planning and analytics platform for enterprise teams. In her own words Kat has an “unusual backstory” leaving the world of math academia to build Facebook’s first-ever data science team within FP&A. At the social media giant she was Responsible for financial reporting, forecasting, and planning activities for Facebook’s core business. This was followed by stints as Head of Product at IronClad, a $3billion legaltech company, Sequoia Capital Scout, General Partner at Darkmode Ventures and co-founder & CEO of Vareto.


    In this episode Kat reveals:

    • The challenges of long range planning as Facebook scaled massively and trying to predict growth across countries from the US to India with more than 100 people contributing to the planing process) 
  • Being at the beginning of data Science at Facebook
  • The move  from data science and product into finance
  • When should companies start looking at FP&A
  • Being a Sequoia scout and what it entails and what she looks for in investment opportunities
  • How (now) Meta CFO Susan Li “an absolutely outstanding” mentor insisted on a  finance team with data science skills led by Orekhova
  • The right blend between data science and FP&A who are “Living in Different Tools”
  • Her take on the amount of data science that FP&A teams need to boost their career
  • The impact of AI in finance
  • Follow Kat on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katorekhova/

    51 min
  • FP&A Bliss from Pepsi to Lindt: Tolga Hocanin

    Tolga Hocanin, CFO & Vice President, Finance & IT at Lindt & Sprüngli (Canada) gives a masterclass in CPG FP&A from his experience at PepsiCo and chocolatier, Lindt.


    In this episode:

    • Lessons from 20 years of budgeting and how my first budget was a nightmare
  • Why budgeting is not just a math exercise
  • The main metrics you need to know in CPG
  • Why mix management is crucial
  • The 30-60-90 day plan to succeed in finance in CPG
  • Running both IT and finance as CFO and why this makes sense
  • Building a strong culture in a finance team 
  • Starting with why in finance 
  • A $1.5M reporting error and how I responded to it 
  • Building cross-functional relationships with business partners
  • Follow and connect with Tolga Hocanin on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tolga-hocanin-cpa-cma-2958008/

    44 min
  • How FP&A and Rev Ops Can work Together to Drive Value

    Talking about the connectedness of FP&A and Rev Ops working together are all-star revenue leaders: Jeff Ignacio, Head of Go-to market Growth and operations at Regrow Ag, Arvind Chahal VP, finance and ops at autotrader Canada, and Drew Noel, VP Revenue, SCS Cloud.


    First, what is rev Ops?

    “Rev Ops is the discipline of aligning go-to market strategy and execution through four key pillars: process enablement, advisory and systems excellence” (Webster dictionary definition submitted by Paul Igancio).

    In this episode:

    • How revenue operations and finance operations need to be working together effectively?
  • The challenges and worst stories when rev ops and Finance fail to click.
  • The worst “bad behavior” in a go-to-market org 
  • Data and cultural issues with finance and Rev Ops
  • Moving career from FP&A to RevOps
  • How to ensure we are defining and reporting metrics in the same way
  • The importance of a “data dictionary”
  • How AI will impact the operations function
  • Favorite Excel function or feature
  • Our guests:

    Jeff Ignacio, Head of Go-to market Growth and operations at Regrow Ag
    Arvind Chahal VP, finance and ops at autotrader Canada

    Drew Noel, VP Revenue, SCS Cloud

    55 min
  • Andrew Lynch -the SMB Finance Guy-on Mentors, Skill Stacking, and why getting Fired Saved my Career

    Andrew Lynch,  Head of FP&A at UK card discount scheme for public service employees, Blue LIght Card, is known to his nearly 11,000 Twitter followers as The SMB Finance Guy.


    The FP&A leader also runs the highly popular Net Income newsletter regularly posts small business opportunities, scaling companies, systems, strategy, “with a few shitposts thrown in for good measure” (His writing has also been picked up by Business Insider).

    In this episode Andrew reveals:

    • The power of mentors in transforming his finance career from a “struggle to find someone who would take me” to high-profile roles at Anabas, Capital One, and Blue LIght Card.
  • Starting a new budget from scratch and building an FP&A team at Blue Light Card
  • Negotiation and sandbagging with sales and how FP&A can deal with the challenges
  • How FP&A best practice saw Andrew deliver one SMB £10 million a year in revenue and from £8k in profit to £23 million
  • Being Fired by Four times Bestselling New York Times author Tucker Max the day before Xmas Eve
  • Skill stacking – getting to be the top 25% in the world at four or five different related things – rather than trying to be the best
  • Being one of the few FP&A leaders on the comedy circuit
  • Subscribe to Net Income at https://www.netincome.co/

    Follow Andrew at https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewglynch/

    49 min
  • FP&A at $5m to $50M Companies – Jon Allen and Duke Heninger

    Jon Allen and Duke Heninger, of  Utah-based Amplēo, have brought their finance game to fast-growing companies which are between $5m and $50m in revenue. They are “fractional CFOs” – that is experienced finance professionals advising these companies on a part-time basis. For instance, one business they work with, Korean barbeque restaurant Cupbop, appeared on ABC’s Shark Tank and got $1million from Mark Cuban in 2022. Other companies they advised include Burt Brothers (a tire and services company). Collectively Amplēo helped more than 3000 companies.


    But they always find the same story when they look at financials at such companies.

     “It’s always the data”, says Duke Heninger, Financial Partner at Amplēo. “It’s getting things put in a way so that people can understand what they’ve even spent. Most of my clients are on a very simplified accounting system. They aren’t classifying anything in separate departments. So it’s breaking it out, trying to understand who owns what, where should it go, and ultimately everybody just sandbags just so that they don’t trip a budget”.


    In this episode of FP&A we meet Jon Allen Managing Partner, Finance, and Duke Heninger, finance partner at Amplēo.
    They provide a masterclass on the value of FP&A at fast-growing companies, revealing:

    • Our worst budget experiences
  • Our journey through finance to CFO 
  • What we wish we had known earlier in our career 
  • Restaurants in COVID Times – how we used FP&A to help businesses 
  • The powerful value of FP&A in restaurants
  • Why FP&A is a superb career choice
  • Founding companies as finance leaders 
  • Teaching FP&A at University 
  • Why great FP&A must lead to actions and decisions
  • How FP&A can become good business partners 
  • Reporting vs forecasting 
  • The importance of choosing a great finance leader to work for early in your career
  • Getting out your chair and talking to people
  • The last things we asked ChatGPT

  • Follow Duke Heninger:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/dukeh/


    Follow Jon Allen
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyallen/

    Amplēo provides business professionals, such as CFOs, CMOs and CHROs, to companies on a fractional basis in order to help them achieve their full potential. https://ampleo.com/

    49 min
  • AI: An extension of the FP&A Brain: Didi Gurfinkel Co-Founder and CEO of Datarails

    There are two different directions for AI in finance, says Didi Gurfinkel, Co-Founder and CEO of Datarails.


    You can use AI to extend your hands.

    Or, your brain. 

    He says: ”Using AI to extend your hands involves automating processes, making everything faster, reducing headcount shortening time to deliver, which is amazing. But it’s not a life changer. In this situation maybe you can reduce the gap between 10 employees to five employees but this will not be what will save your business or ultimately make it successful.

    “The more interesting part is to look at AI as an extension to your brain. Here, I think this is a life changer. Letting the CFO or the FP&A manager have a tool that can be like an extension to the FP&A brain. If you take your analysis or approach to analyze your business, the AI can run it at scale with all your historical data, internal data and external data.”

    In this episode Didi Gurfinkel talks about setting up Datarails, the FP&A the AI-powered Financial Planning and Analysis platform for Excel users and the multiple challenges and learnings along the way.

    He reveals:

    • Starting his career at Cisco the biggest IT company in the world (“I imagined that everything will be automated end of month – I was wrong”)
  • Setting up Datarails in 2015 and the challenges of getting traction for an initial concept of “connecting organizational spreadsheets into one centralized database”
  • Four years of trying (and How he finally found product market fit) 
  • Understanding the power of Excel as core to finance allowed us to focus on finance
  • How FP&A use cases are the classic consolidation challenge because every FP&A process starts from collecting data from multiple sources in different structures, different shapes, and  different systems. 
  • Our capability to transform semi-structured data into structured data landed a very strong competitive edge,
  • Our “SaaS wake up call” – how we learnt to grow at the same pace with 50% less expenses  
  • AI is either an extension of your head vs AI as an extension of your brain and why the latter is the real game-changer
  • From a good CFO to an amazing CFO with AI
  • My expectations as a CEO from my finance team
  • Why ChatGPT is amazing at text but the challenges come with replicating this with accurate numbers
  • My favorite Excel function
  • Surprising fact you wouldn’t know about me 
  • Didi was previously a GM at Cisco. He has extensive senior management experience with a focus on growth and innovation. Didi oversees business, strategy and operations. He holds a B.Sc in economics and computer science, and an MBA in business management.

    Follow Didi Gurfinkel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/didigurfinkel/

    37 min
  • FP&A Vs Finance Business Partners – Tunc Tezel, VP Group FP&A at Ontex

    Tunc Tezel has managed FP&A at companies including Ontex, Pladis, British American Tobacco, Procter & Gamble, and Gillette. He has lived and worked in 11 different countries including the UK, Iran, Sub-saharan Africa, Turkey, Latvia, Belgium

    Now, Tezel is VP of global FP&A at Ontex, a publicly listed leader in private label manufacturing baby care, feminine care and adult care products for stores including Walmart, Aldi, Lidl,Tesco and Carrefour.

    In this episode provides his takeaways from a career at the cutting edge of FP&A:

    • What do you do with your company’s budget when overnight interest rates hit 3000%. And the Turkish lira was devalued by 60% overnight 
  • How FP&A powers private label manufacturing vs working at big brands
  • How we coped with the pandemic and the shift to economically challenged consumers trying private labels 
  • Moving from brand ambassadors to product ambassadors
  • How FP&A is supporting ESG
  • Business supporting finance managers – should you call them FP&A Managers or
  • Finance Business Partners (and why it matters)
  • The challenges of data in FP&A work 
  • FP&A as co-pilot in a rally car
  • Secrets of bringing the numbers to life Cooking and seafood 
  • Why I would have loved to meet Atatürk, founder of the Turkish Republic
  • The last thing I asked Google/Chat GPT about my finance work 

  • Episode Notes
    Connect with Tunc Tezel on LinkedIn.
    Tunc Tezel: Banking CIO Outlook: FP&A Vs Finance Business
    46 min
  • A new roadmap for FP&A – with Jack Alexander

    Jack Alexander was our second ever guest on FP&A Today and it remains one of our most downloaded episodes. Here he returns to exclusively launch his new book (published January 2024): Financial Management: Partner in Driving Performance and Value (Wiley Finance)

    His new book is a  post-pandemic and typically practical take on performance management, planning, forecasting, business valuation, mergers, acquisitions, and capital investment.


    He says: “I wrote (my original book) Financial Planning & Analysis and Performance Management. Then the pandemic occurred, the Great accelerator, the great disruptor. And I was getting a different set of phone calls and requests.

    “Most people hadn't really been through some of these experiences before. Scenario analysis and planning, business transformations and restructuring liquidity management and scenario planning through various liquidity scenarios. There was a need for FP&A and finance to look outside the organization at major external forces and events that are happening around the world as the greatest threats and opportunities emerged from outside such as hyperinflation and  geopolitical events.”

    In this episode Jack talks:

    • Why my first budget was a disaster
  • From financial accounting manager to CFO at EG&G
  • Mentoring as a path to CFO and CEO
  • Financial Leadership in the 21st century inspired by the pandemic and post pandemic environment.
  • The essentials of value creation for a finance team
  • Return to the Principles of a “Top Gun” CFO
  • What’s changed - and what hasn’t in 45 years of FP&A
  • How audit and transaction experience got me first promoted to CFO
  • Health and finance
  • Follow Jack Alexander at https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-jack-alexande

    54 min
  • Winning the Super Bowl of FP&A – with Cayla Pingel

    Cayla Pingel has led FP&A in sports, gaming and entertainment at companies including Warner Bros, Fox Sports and most recently, 2K Games, a global video game company. At Fox Sports she financially quarterbacked the full P&L for the biggest sporting events including the Super Bowl, the World Series, and the NFL Baseball World Cup.

    The senior Director, Finance at 2K describes her approach to business partnering as more like a “sports agent” (“like Jerry Maguire but more calm” says Pingel).


    Pingel says “I tell my business partners to think of me as your agent. I’m going to go out and negotiate this for you from a financial perspective. Tell me what you need and let me help sell this so that we can make the case and do it.”

    In this episode:

    • Being at Fox Sports when live sports came screeching to a halt during COVID
  • Show me the Money – managing the superbowl of FP&A at Fox Sports, Warner Bros and 2K and the power of ratings for finance
  • How blowouts affect financial performance
  • Uncovering the differences between Accounting vs FP&A at Fox Sports
  • Why I chose the FP&A direction rather than a COO role
  • Most important metrics in sports businesses
  • Heavy fixed costs and the challenges of live broadcasting
  • Huge tech, streaming and viewership changes in media/sports and entertainment – and how to forecast the future of the game for finance pros
  • Metrics in game playing: and finance discussions about whether to put new features in a game
  • Leading the Los Angeles chapter for women in sports and events
  • Flying out to Prague six weeks into a new job at Warner Bros to fix a mess and the strategic resolution 
  • March Madness ‘Budget Season’ Challenge at Fox Sports – and why the  loser has to do the waterfall charts
  • Follow and contact Cayla Pingel on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/cayla-pingel-410a1a73/

    39 min

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