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To celebrate the #BlackList2025 release, we're dropping a loaded bonus episode with Black List founder Franklin Leonard.
Twenty-one years after its inception, the Black List has become Hollywood's most influential survey of unproduced screenplays - launching careers, reshaping industry gatekeeping, and proving that meritocracy can be an engine for diversity. As the 2025 list drops, we sit down with founder Franklin Leonard for an unflinching conversation about what's changed, what hasn't, and what comes next.
Guest: Franklin Leonard on Instagram, BlueSky and X
Host: Chris Hill on Instagram, X, TikTok and BlueSky
Useful Links:
Franklin on Substack
The Black List on Substack
The Annual Black List Archives
Episode Sponsor:
Hit the link here for 10% off Story and Plot's pro digital screenwriting courses, MASTERING STRUCTURE and IDEA TO OUTLINE.
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To celebrate the #BlackList2025 release, we're dropping a loaded bonus episode with Black List founder Franklin Leonard.
Twenty-one years after its inception, the Black List has become Hollywood's most influential survey of unproduced screenplays - launching careers, reshaping industry gatekeeping, and proving that meritocracy can be an engine for diversity. As the 2025 list drops, we sit down with founder Franklin Leonard for an unflinching conversation about what's changed, what hasn't, and what comes next.
Guest: Franklin Leonard on Instagram, BlueSky and X
Host: Chris Hill on Instagram, X, TikTok and BlueSky
Useful Links:
Franklin on Substack
The Black List on Substack
The Annual Black List Archives
Episode Sponsor:
Hit the link here for 10% off Story and Plot's pro digital screenwriting courses, MASTERING STRUCTURE and IDEA TO OUTLINE.

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