What does it feel like to be under fire? How are drones changing warfare? And why does modern military tech so often miss the mark?

In this episode, special operations veterans Chris “Gus” Jennings (5th Special Forces Group) and Mike “Rod” Rodriguez (Marine Raider) join us for a raw, unfiltered conversation about battle, culture, and the evolution of combat.

We talk about their first experiences getting shot at, how FPV drones are the new IEDs, what’s wrong with defense procurement, and why tanks aren’t obsolete—just vulnerable.

Plus: nuclear deterrence, alien life, and why U.S. warfighters always find a way to win. Podcast #28.

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