This is our full interview with SemiAnalysis Founder and CEO Dylan Patel, recorded live on TBPN at the Cisco AI Summit in San Francisco. 

We discuss data centers in space, the limits of today’s AI hardware, and how chips, power, and geopolitics will shape the future of AI infra.

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to podcast platforms immediately after. 

Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.