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0:28 Emma’s forthcoming book on US grand strategy 4:40 Gaza, Ukraine, and Mearsheimer’s realism 13:38 The DC establishment’s dark view of world affairs 24:43 How the Gaza war hurts American interests—and America itself 30:10 Is the time ripe for realism and restraint? 36:25 National problems that require international cooperation 49:59 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Emma Ashford (Stimson Center, Foreign Policy). Recorded August 14, 2024.

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