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(Interview recorded Aug 14, 2024 and released Nov 6, 2024. George Folsey Jr. died on December 29th, 2024 at the age of 85. Thank you, George, for all that you gave to this industry--you will be missed.)

In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with George Folsey Jr., the legendary film editor and producer whose illustrious career spans over five decades. Folsey Jr. has collaborated with acclaimed directors like John Landis, Eli Roth, and Paul Feig and is known for his work on films including Trading Places, An American Werewolf in London, The Blues Brothers, and Michael Jackson's groundbreaking music video, Thriller.

Growing Up in Hollywood's Golden Age (02:00)
George recalls his childhood experiences at MGM Studios, including encounters with stars like Judy Garland, Mickey Rooney, and Esther Williams.

Learning the Craft (05:36)
George discusses his entry into film editing, starting at KABC and learning from mentor Henry Berman at MGM.

The Making of Trading Places (10:07)
The conversation turns to Trading Places, which George considers one of his favorite projects. He discusses the challenging relationship with producer Aaron Russo and filming in Philadelphia.

The Twilight Zone Tragedy (11:53)
George and Kevin discuss the tragic accident on The Twilight Zone set and its impact on George’s life and career.

The Art of the "Fix" (15:42)
George explains his approach to "fixing" troubled films, emphasizing the importance of collaboration rather than alienating the original filmmakers.

The Animal House Experience (20:44)
In a fascinating revelation about one of comedy's most beloved films, George discusses how Animal House was made without traditional test screenings.

On Test Screenings and Audience Feedback (26:22)
George strongly advocates for the test screening process, arguing that understanding audience reactions is crucial given the massive investments in both money and careers at stake. He demonstrates this philosophy in his work on Cheaper by the Dozen.

Working with Michael Jackson on Thriller (37:18)
George shares personal stories about working with Michael Jackson, including anecdotes about their time together during the editing of Thriller and family visits to Jackson's home.

George Folsey Jr. offers a masterclass in film editing and production. His candid insights into working with directors like John Landis and Paul Feig, collaborating with Michael Jackson on Thriller, and helping shape classics like Trading Places and Animal House offer listeners a glimpse into the craft of film editing. His honest discussion of career challenges, including the Twilight Zone tragedy, and his philosophy on film editing and test screenings reveals not only his technical expertise but also his passion for storytelling and audienc

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