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Natalie Cloutier is a French-Canadian real estate investor who, alongside her husband, has spent over a decade building a successful build-to-rent business in Canada. With a background in architectural technology, Natalie began her journey by constructing her first home at the age of 19 using a sweat-equity loan, transforming a family "secret" into a powerful investment model. Today, she and her husband have built 53 units from the ground up, acquired and renovated four additional properties, and automated their business to support long-term growth. Her approach centers on risk-aware development, ADU maximization, and creative strategies to unlock housing value. She is also the author of The Build to Rent Strategy and co-founder of The New Build Couple.
Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here.
Key Takeaways
Why building your own home with sweat equity can kickstart your investing journey
The build-rent-refinance-repeat model Natalie uses instead of traditional BRRRR
How legislation like Bill 23 unlocked value via ADUs
The risks to watch for when analyzing land deals
Why burnout forced her to scale—and how hiring a team changed her business
Topics
From Architecture School to First Build
How Natalie and her husband started by building their own house at 19
The sweat-equity loan that replaced a traditional down payment
Living through construction while house-hacking their basement unit
Scaling with Confidence
Transitioning from guided help to self-led builds
Building nights and weekends while working 40-hour weeks
How an employee learned their model and replicated it himself
Why Build-to-Rent Made Sense
Existing properties in Ontario didn't pencil out
Build-to-rent as a better alternative to BRRRR for their market
The shift from slow beginnings to full-time real estate
Shifting Strategies Through Market Changes
The effects of COVID, inflation, and interest rates
Navigating legislative battles with municipalities
Taking a break to reassess in the face of red tape
Due Diligence in Development
Natalie's master checklist before buying land
Zoning, sewer, easements, internet access, and environmental tests
The consequences of skipping steps (like a $30k surprise for internet)
How ADUs Became a Game Changer
Leveraging Ontario's Bill 23 to turn a duplex into a triplex
Avoiding six-figure development fees by using ADU classifications
Applying the ADU model to create sixplexes with cost savings
📢 Announcement: Learn about our Apartment Investing Mastermind here.
Round of Insights
Failure that set Natalie up for success: Burning out from doing too much herself, led to hiring a team and building better systems.
Digital or mobile resource: Buildium, for managing tenant communication and operations, even with just a few units.
Book recommendation: Secrets of the Canadian Real Estate Cycle by Don Campbell, great for understanding market timing and cycles.
Daily habit: Running or walking: movement helps her reset and stay grounded.
#1 insight for real estate investors: Do your due diligence. This is not a risk-free strategy, so run the numbers and know what you're getting into.
Favorite restaurant in Mont-Tremblant, Quebec: Socal Kitchen.
Next Steps
Connect with Natalie at thenewbuildcouple.com
Follow her on Instagram to see project videos and updates
Grab a copy of her book: The Build to Rent Strategy
Thank you for joining us for another great episode! If you're enjoying the show, please LEAVE A RATING OR REVIEW, and be sure to hit that subscribe button so you don't miss an episode.
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Natalie Cloutier is a French-Canadian real estate investor who, alongside her husband, has spent over a decade building a successful build-to-rent business in Canada. With a background in architectural technology, Natalie began her journey by constructing her first home at the age of 19 using a sweat-equity loan, transforming a family "secret" into a powerful investment model. Today, she and her husband have built 53 units from the ground up, acquired and renovated four additional properties, and automated their business to support long-term growth. Her approach centers on risk-aware development, ADU maximization, and creative strategies to unlock housing value. She is also the author of The Build to Rent Strategy and co-founder of The New Build Couple.
Make sure to download our free guide, 7 Questions Every Passive Investor Should Ask, here.
Key Takeaways
Why building your own home with sweat equity can kickstart your investing journey
The build-rent-refinance-repeat model Natalie uses instead of traditional BRRRR
How legislation like Bill 23 unlocked value via ADUs
The risks to watch for when analyzing land deals
Why burnout forced her to scale—and how hiring a team changed her business
Topics
From Architecture School to First Build
How Natalie and her husband started by building their own house at 19
The sweat-equity loan that replaced a traditional down payment
Living through construction while house-hacking their basement unit
Scaling with Confidence
Transitioning from guided help to self-led builds
Building nights and weekends while working 40-hour weeks
How an employee learned their model and replicated it himself
Why Build-to-Rent Made Sense
Existing properties in Ontario didn't pencil out
Build-to-rent as a better alternative to BRRRR for their market
The shift from slow beginnings to full-time real estate
Shifting Strategies Through Market Changes
The effects of COVID, inflation, and interest rates
Navigating legislative battles with municipalities
Taking a break to reassess in the face of red tape
Due Diligence in Development
Natalie's master checklist before buying land
Zoning, sewer, easements, internet access, and environmental tests
The consequences of skipping steps (like a $30k surprise for internet)
How ADUs Became a Game Changer
Leveraging Ontario's Bill 23 to turn a duplex into a triplex
Avoiding six-figure development fees by using ADU classifications
Applying the ADU model to create sixplexes with cost savings
📢 Announcement: Learn about our Apartment Investing Mastermind here.
Round of Insights
Failure that set Natalie up for success: Burning out from doing too much herself, led to hiring a team and building better systems.
Digital or mobile resource: Buildium, for managing tenant communication and operations, even with just a few units.
Book recommendation: Secrets of the Canadian Real Estate Cycle by Don Campbell, great for understanding market timing and cycles.
Daily habit: Running or walking: movement helps her reset and stay grounded.
#1 insight for real estate investors: Do your due diligence. This is not a risk-free strategy, so run the numbers and know what you're getting into.
Favorite restaurant in Mont-Tremblant, Quebec: Socal Kitchen.
Next Steps
Connect with Natalie at thenewbuildcouple.com
Follow her on Instagram to see project videos and updates
Grab a copy of her book: The Build to Rent Strategy
Thank you for joining us for another great episode! If you're enjoying the show, please LEAVE A RATING OR REVIEW, and be sure to hit that subscribe button so you don't miss an episode.

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