Kelly speaks to Alison Taylor, a clinical professor at NYU Stern School of Business and the Executive Director of Ethical Systems, a research collaboration of prominent business school professors working on ethical culture founded by Jonathon Haidt. They discuss her new book, “Higher Ground: How Business Can Do the Right Thing in a Turbulent World.” 

“We’re all armchair cultural auditors now.” 

“It’s never sufficient for a leader to be a good person.” 

“What behavior does the organization reward, and what does it punish?”