Kelly welcomes Martha Jones back to the podcast. She is the Society of Black Alumni Presidential Professor and professor of history at the SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University. We spoke to her last about her book “Vanguard.” Her new book is called “The Trouble of Color: An American Family Memoir.” 

“So much of the historical record was written with silence.” 

“I discovered my faith in the capacity of words to help me know myself and the people who made me.”

“This book is a dialogue with my family. It is also a dialogue with those who write about the past in which my family made its way.”