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Alexander Campbell claims that having superhuman intelligence doesn’t necessarily translate into having vast power, and that Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem ensures AI can’t get too powerful. I strongly disagree.
Alex has a Master's of Philosophy in Economics from the University of Oxford and an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business, has worked as a quant trader at Lehman Brothers and Bridgewater Associates, and is the founder of Rose AI, a cloud data platform that leverages generative AI to help visualize data.
This debate was recorded in August 2023.
00:00 Intro and Alex’s Background
05:29 Alex's Views on AI and Technology
06:45 Alex’s Non-Doomer Position
11:20 Goal-to-Action Mapping
15:20 Outcome Pump Thought Experiment
21:07 Liron’s Doom Argument
29:10 The Dangers of Goal-to-Action Mappers
34:39 The China Argument and Existential Risks
45:18 Ideological Turing Test
48:38 Final Thoughts
Show Notes
Alexander Campbell’s Twitter: https://x.com/abcampbell
Watch the Lethal Intelligence Guide, the ultimate introduction to AI x-risk! https://www.youtube.com/@lethal-intelligence
PauseAI, the volunteer organization I’m part of: https://pauseai.info
Join the PauseAI Discord — https://discord.gg/2XXWXvErfA — and say hi to me in the #doom-debates-podcast channel!
Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.
Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at https://doomdebates.com and to https://youtube.com/@DoomDebates
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Alexander Campbell claims that having superhuman intelligence doesn’t necessarily translate into having vast power, and that Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem ensures AI can’t get too powerful. I strongly disagree.
Alex has a Master's of Philosophy in Economics from the University of Oxford and an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business, has worked as a quant trader at Lehman Brothers and Bridgewater Associates, and is the founder of Rose AI, a cloud data platform that leverages generative AI to help visualize data.
This debate was recorded in August 2023.
00:00 Intro and Alex’s Background
05:29 Alex's Views on AI and Technology
06:45 Alex’s Non-Doomer Position
11:20 Goal-to-Action Mapping
15:20 Outcome Pump Thought Experiment
21:07 Liron’s Doom Argument
29:10 The Dangers of Goal-to-Action Mappers
34:39 The China Argument and Existential Risks
45:18 Ideological Turing Test
48:38 Final Thoughts
Show Notes
Alexander Campbell’s Twitter: https://x.com/abcampbell
Watch the Lethal Intelligence Guide, the ultimate introduction to AI x-risk! https://www.youtube.com/@lethal-intelligence
PauseAI, the volunteer organization I’m part of: https://pauseai.info
Join the PauseAI Discord — https://discord.gg/2XXWXvErfA — and say hi to me in the #doom-debates-podcast channel!
Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate.
Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at https://doomdebates.com and to https://youtube.com/@DoomDebates

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