When you think of your children growing up, do you view their leaving as the end of an era - or the beginning of something new? In this episode, renowned happiness expert, author, and podcaster Gretchen Rubin joins me to discuss her “open-door” approach to parenting young adults, her brand-new, instant-NYTimes-bestselling book Secrets of Adulthood, our midlife lady hobbies, the way we remember (and don’t remember) our kids’ childhoods, and even the possibility of new puppies.

Episode links:

Gretchen’s new book: Secrets of Adulthood: Simple Truths For Our Complex Lives

HAPPIER with Gretchen Rubin - Gretchen’s podcast

"Abandon the Empty Nest. Instead, Try the Open Door." Gretchen’s article in The Atlantic that inspired this conversation

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