Murray Kinsella joins Gavan Casey from his boarding gate as he prepares to travel to La Rochelle for Leinster's meeting with their modern-day rivals on Sunday.

The lads look ahead to the provinces' games in Europe this weekend and also discuss Mack Hansen's suspension as well as referees' frustrations with how they're treated within the game.

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