Best-selling author and New York Times writer Harvey Araton joins Adrian Wojnarowski on The Vertical Podcast with Woj. Araton discusses the his long-standing relationship and perspective on Knicks president Phil Jackson and his evolution into the role of running the Knicks. Araton talks about his history covering several incarnations of the Knicks franchise, including Riley-Ewing Knicks, and his best-selling book, 'When the Garden was Eden," on the 1970 and '73 NBA championship teams and how those groups famously integrated themselves into the fabric and community of New York City. Araton is illuminating on the evolution of covering the NBA, including his 1990's book, "The Selling of The Green," on the components of race and the Boston Celtics. From Gregg Popovich and the Spurs as legitimate heirs in the tradition of Knicks legendary coach Red Holzman.