The England Rugby Podcast: O2 Inside returns for series four ahead of the summer Quilter Internationals as Ugo Monye sits down with scrum coach Neal Hatley.

Talking in-depth about his life and career, Hatley reveals why he moved from Lancashire to Zimbabwe as a child, why hot showers became a driver in his early rugby career at school and how he progressed from a full back to the front row. He also speaks about how Eddie Jones approached him for the job, answers who in the current squad he would compare himself to and how he relaxes outside of the game. You will also hear from Red Roses prop Sarah Bern who discusses her three sporting heroes and why they mean so much to her.

The pod will return for an extended weekly run over the next few months covering the rest of England's games during the summer as well as the fixtures out in Japan.

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