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Tim and Jen start spooky season early with a shockingly dark release from Disney, Return to Oz.
Jen forgot to mention that the main reason the film does not resembles the MGM film from 1939 apart from the Ruby Slippers™ is because all of the trappings of the MGM version were and are copyrighted. In fact, Disney had to shell out to use that plot device in the film. Hence, while Walter Murch’s desire to make a moive closer in spirit to the L. Frank Baum material is admirable, it most likely played second fiddle to the demands of copyright law.
Additionally, the movie finally made a profit from a 1949 re-release, not “like twenty years later” or whatever Jen glibly claimed.
Animator Doug Aberle made a video where he talks about his process for animating the demise of the Nome King. Plus, he includes interviews with the late Will Vinton.
If you want more details about the drama between Sarah Polley and Terry Gilliam, you can read an excerpt from her memoir here.
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For their one hundred and fiftieth episode (!), Jen and Tim welcome animation expert Jerry Beck to talk about the worst cartoons ever made and the Monkees’ super freak out, Head!
Visit Jerry’s website for all the animation news and discussion you can eat.
You can watch Two Wet Bears and Sam Bassett, Hound For Hire on YouTube, if you dare. You can also see the first episode of Jerry and Frank Conniff’s nightmare children’s show parody, Cartoon Dump!
Someone else remembers WBAI’s collage radio show, “Techie Time!”
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Tim gets a little treat this month— we talked about one of his personal favorites, Gaspar Noé’s trippy version of the Tibetan Book of the Dead, Enter the Void!
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Jen hosts the delightful Jane Altoids of Pacino Pod to perform an autopsy on one of the worst vanity projects ever made: Give My Regards to Broad Street!
Director Peter Webb’s BAFTA-winning short Butch Minds the Baby is up at the Internet Archive. Give it a watch so Paul McCartney’s cinematic abortion doesn't define Webb's onscreen legacy.
I couldn’t dig up the Macca/Siskel interview Jane mentioned, but Paul is very pissy in this live chat from the film’s premiere. Better, though, is this South Bank Show documentary about the making of the film’s music which opens with Paul and legendary producer George Martin composing the number one hit “No More Lonely Nights.”
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Jen and Tim fight to a standstill over a comedy that flopped in theaters, Wet Hot American Summer.
Tim incorrectly identifies co-writer Michael Showalter as director. It was David Wain, not that Tim gives a fuck.
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Tim and Jen defend a movie you either love or hate, Darren Aronofsky’s mother!
See crybaby Kyle Smith’s review of mother! at the world’s worst magazine if you want to know what kind of thing gets your hosts into a theater to see a movie.
Jen whiffed the explanation of the bad blood between Satoshi Kon and Darren Aronofsky. The situation is way more complicated than the latter purchasing the rights to Perfect Blue (which never happened, incidentally). The Animation Obsessive Substack did a deep dive.
Looking for an exploration of the meaning of the pelican-in-her-piety from someone way more informed than Jen? The nice people at the St. Mary Magdalen School of Theology have you covered.
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Jen and Tim finally tackle one of their shared albatrosses— the Robocop before Robocop, R.O.T.O.R.!
Isadora Fox wrote a piece in memory of actress Margaret Trigg for New York magazine back in 2004. The article details her struggles with disordered eating and poor mental health, but also serves as a eulogy for a legitimately talented person gone too soon.
You can also watch an entire episode of Aliens in the Family, the unlamented sitcom Trigg starred in for 8 episodes. By the way, Aliens in the Family was co-written by everyone’s least favorite “satirist,” Andy Borowitz.
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Tim gets a little treat this month— we talked about one of his personal favorites, Gaspar Noé’s trippy version of the Tibetan Book of the Dead, Enter the Void!
Read an interview at Den of Geek with a voluble Noé about Enter the Void.
Towards the end, the weird trip turns into a bad trip, like sometimes mushroom trips or acid trips turn into bad trips. But a bad trip can be very rewarding, because when you come out of one, it’s like coming out of a bad dream where you get killed or something, and the moment you wake up, you still feel the presence of that reality and the dream, or the nightmare, is always real. But you feel so safe coming back to the real world, and some people said when they came out of this movie that they were still scared. – Gaspar Noé on Enter the VoidThe Hype Williams-directed video Tim got so mad about is for Kanye West’s “All of the Lights.” Honestly a pretty pallid copy of the title sequence Tim loves so much.
See Paz de la Huerta crash the shooting of Louis Theroux’s Scientology documentary.
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Tim and Jen host Jacques of the Seeking Derangements podcast so they can hold forth about a personal favorite: Fatal Beauty starring Whoopi Goldberg!
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Jen and Tim marvel at the cursed, ill-conceived, bloated sequel to Chinatown, The Two Jakes.
Errata: Jen was wrong and Polanski fled the country in February of 1978, not 1977.
The Two Jakes derailed the Robert Towne/Jack Nicholson friendship, which had been forged in the early 60s while both worked for Roger Corman, for at least a decade. Towne admitted as much in Peter Biskind’s Easy Riders, Raging Bulls. However, in a 2006 interview, Towne parries a question about the film thusly:
So, you know, awwwwww.
The History Channel website has the cold hard facts about Jack Nicholson’s 1994 road rage incident, in which he attacked another motorist’s car with a golf club.
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