Haystacks & Hell

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Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges with food and body image. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes
 

Cherie's Info:

To claim a 90-minute session with Cherie, send her a Direct Message on Instagram and mention the promo code "Hell"

Instagram - alchemy1.0

TikTok - cheriemaried

Other topics mentioned:

Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking

Eve Was Framed - Instagram

Gabor Maté - Wikipedia 

Sex and Sensibility
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Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Matthew's Links:

Book - All of Us Together in the End

Essay - This I Believed

Essay - The Man With Two Heads

Website / Bio

Books Mentioned:

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are - Alan Watts

The Denial of Death - Ernest Becker

Other Topics Mentioned:

TikTok - Rachel Klinger Cain

The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost

The Architecture of Doom

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Santiago interviews Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Matthew's Links:

Book - All of Us Together in the End

Essay - This I Believed

Website / Bio

Books Mentioned:

The Doctor and the Damned - Albert Haas

Armageddon - Bart D. Ehrman

The Bible Tells Me So - Peter Enns

The Sins of Scripture - John Shelby Spong

Why Christianity Must Change or Die - John Shelby Spong

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu

Other Topics Mentioned:

Albert Haas and Mauthausen

Music from Matthew's friend John Ringhofer

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Santiago announces updates to the resources linked on the Haystacks & Hell website, a new mutual aid project, and a call-to-action to help fellow listeners of the podcast.

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Santiago interviews Adam Kyle Jones, an ex-Adventist who studied to become a Seventh-day Adventist pastor at the SDA school Oakwood University. Kyle went from being a lifelong fundamentalist, conservative Adventist to an agnostic atheist. We cover his upbringing, deconversion, depression, and how he came out stronger on the other side.

Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

Topics / resources mentioned:

• Viced Rhino - YouTube
• The Atheist Experience - YouTube
• Matt Dillahunty - Twitter
• One Piece Anime
• The Demon-Haunted World - Carl Sagan
• Saying No to God - Matthew J. Korpman
• The Moral Landscape - Sam Harris

Kyle's social media:

• Instagram - @kylefreedom_
• TikTok - @thekylefreedom
• Facebook - Kyle Freedom

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Bonus episode discussing an upcoming "Human Sexuality Taskforce" announced by Ted Wilson, President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Why talk about this? Because I care about the current and former Adventists who will be affected by this. Apparently the GC's homophobia is not clear enough, so they will be producing media to double down on this.

Related Social Posts (please share if you can):

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Instagram reel

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YouTube short
 

Sources:

Original video on YouTube

Spectrum Magazine: General Conference Response

Spectrum Magazine: Ethical Dissent

Washington Adventist University Summit

Adventist Today: SDA Support of Ugandan Anti-LGBT Bill

1987 GC Statement on Sexual Behavior
 

Relevant Info:

BITE Model of Authoritarian Control

The Cut: Exposing FGM (Female Genital Mutilation)

SDA Kinship
 

Relevant Episodes:

S1 Episode 4: When Did You Learn About Sex?

S1 Episode 5: Did You Ever Get "The Talk?"

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Santiago interviews Jeff, an ex-Adventist who used to work for ADRA and still does humanitarian work today. They discuss a bit of everything about growing up Adventist, including Jeff's experiences at an SDA boarding school and what it's been like to leave Adventism over the last 20 years.

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Links to topics mentioned:

• James Dobson Video
• Christianity Today: The Wall of Adventism
• Book: Goodbye Jesus
• Ex-Adventist Survey

Please take the ex-SDA survey if you haven't already! As of this publishing (April 8, 2023), it is planned to remain open until June 2023.

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Ami, Abby, and Misty talk about worldly literature, fiction, and the church. They discuss their experiences with forbidden books and the Adventist attitude towards fiction in general, and ask their friends if they read any forbidden books.
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Part 2 of Santiago's conversation with Melissa Duge Spiers, an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. They cover Melissa's journey with therapy after leaving the church, her current projects, and more.

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Melissa's Links:

• Official Website
• TikTok @theglorywhole
• Instagram @the.glory.whole

Links to other topics mentioned:

• Andrew Kerbs / Deconstruct Everything
• Book: You Are Your Own
• Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery
• The Reclamation Collective
• Secular Therapy Project
• Journey Free

Other podcast episodes featuring Melissa:

• This Podcast Needs a Title - The One with Melissa Duge Spiers
• The Cult of Christianity - Sex
• Nurses and Hypochondriacs - Does Religion Influence Serial Killers?
• Heauxly Coitus - Melissa’s Heaux Story
• Boom Tequila - Sexual Empowerment, Brothels & Purity Culture with Melissa Duge Spiers

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Santiago interviews Melissa Duge Spiers, AKA Deconstruction Auntie. Melissa is an award-winning memoirist, screenwriter, and essayist based in Silicon Valley, California. She grew up as a 4th generation Adventist, got baptized at 12, and left the church after high school. This is Part 1 of a 2 part conversation.

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Melissa's Links:

• Official Website
• TikTok @theglorywhole
• Instagram @the.glory.whole

Links to other topics mentioned:

• Ex-Adventist Survey
• #ChurchToo

Other podcast episodes featuring Melissa:

• This Podcast Needs a Title - The One with Melissa Duge Spiers
• The Cult of Christianity - Sex
• Nurses and Hypochondriacs - Does Religion Influence Serial Killers?
• Heauxly Coitus - Melissa’s Heaux Story
• Boom Tequila - Sexual Empowerment, Brothels & Purity Culture with Melissa Duge Spiers

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