A life can pivot on small brave choices: saying “I am—and what,” booking a one-way ticket for dance, or opening the door to a love that feels simple and true. Rebecca sits with Paul Kinsler to trace those pivots—from a childhood shadowed by addiction to a future shaped by chosen family, honest partnership, and the kind of home you build with your own hands.

Paul shares how a caring mum and early responsibility forged resilience, how naming himself stole the sting from schoolyard slurs, and why he believes empathy grows when we listen to stories unlike our own. We travel with him from choir stalls to cruise ships—Alaska skies, seven-course suppers, and late-night shows—before he returns to Ireland, meets Mark, and discovers the steady magic of clear communication. There’s a moving look at 22 May 2015, marriage equality as both romance and rights, and the practical reasons legal recognition matters when life turns urgent.

We also step inside the house that Instagram knows: budget DIY that empowers, mistakes turned into how-tos, and a belief that you don’t need deep pockets to create a warm, stylish home. Paul talks teaching dance on Zoom, why connection beats choreography right now, and what kids need after a year of screens. Penny the dog gets her moment, of course, and so does the couple’s next big chapter—exploring surrogacy abroad, navigating Irish law, and holding onto hope through a long process. It’s a conversation about love that shows up, community that protects, and the quiet courage of building the life you wish you’d had.

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