00:00 - Intro - Jarred is a Debbie Downer

02:23 - Jarred printed the show notes for this episode

03:17 - Criticism: Orenda downplays the importance of pH

07:09 - Criticism: Orenda advocates for alkalinity below 80 ppm, but that will destroy a pool

08:38 - Criticism: Orenda says 50 ppm CYA or less, but you can't hold chlorine for a week with such low levels

09:54 - Criticism: Phosphates don't matter, and Orenda just says they do to sell more PR-10,000

11:25 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup conflicts with other standard methods

13:38 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup doesn't work

14:40 - Criticism: Orenda's "education" is just propaganda for you to buy more products

17:23 - Criticism: Orenda likes calcium hardness too high

20:44 - Criticism: Orenda says calcium flakes from salt cells are calcium carbonate, but I was told they're calcium phosphate

22:32 - Criticism: Orenda was anti-borate, but now they've flip-flopped and are pro-borate?

24:17 - Criticism: The Rule Your Pool podcast is lame.  (We agree with this one).

25:07 - Criticism: The Orenda Calculator is inaccurate because it differs from other LSI calculators out there

26:29 - Criticism: SC-1000 is no better than other sequestering agents, plus it wipes out chlorine

28:19 - Criticism: Orenda is just another greedy chemical company

30:39 - Criticism: Orenda makes stuff up and calls it "research"

32:55 - Criticism: Orenda unfairly criticizes algaecides...they work so well

34:04 - Criticism: Enzymes don't "digest" because they aren't living

35:07 - Criticism: The LSI wasn't made for pools

36:34 - Criticism: Orenda says pH cannot be controlled...but my pool has a pH controller on it

39:49 - Closing.  Thanks for listening! 

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