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Today on the Salesforce Admins Podcast, we talk to Rebecca Sherrill, VP, and Shelly Erceg, Product Leader, both on the Salesforce Research and Insights team. Join us as we chat about the newest updates to IdeaExchange, including RoadmapExchange and Idea Insights, and why now is the perfect time to get involved.
You should subscribe for the full episode, but here are a few takeaways from our conversation with Rebecca Sherrill and Shelly Erceg.
If you’ve ever wondered what happens after you submit an Idea to the IdeaExchange, this episode is for you. The Product Research and Insights team has been working on several new things to improve transparency and enhance collaboration between PMs and the Salesforce community.
Joining us for this episode are Rebecca Sherrill and Shelly Erceg. Rebecca started at Salesforce in user research, where she talked to, interviewed, and observed hundreds of admins to better understand their needs. “I have a huge appreciation for the admin community because I spent so much time with them during those years,” she says.
Shelly, meanwhile, started as a PM on workflow and process automation tools, building products like Process Builder and part of the Flow engine. “Admins are my jam,” she says. On the Product Research and Insights team, she’s focused on IdeaExchange and True to the Core.
Together, they’re here to tell us about how RoadmapExchange and Idea Insights will help you see how your feedback influences the product roadmap.
If you’ve ever submitted to IdeaExchange, it’s natural to ask yourself, “How do I know if they’re working on my Idea? Is it ever going to be implemented? If not, why?”
That was the impetus behind RoadmapExchange, which maps ideas to Salesforce product roadmaps. The goal is to offer a peek behind the curtain, allowing you to see what the product team is working on right now and what they’re considering for the future. Most importantly, it allows the community to provide feedback and use cases to help guide the product team’s decisions.
“It’s an opportunity to help shape what we build,” Shelly says, and it also gives you a better idea of what’s coming so you don’t waste resources solving a problem that the product team is already working on.
The other IdeaExchange feature that Rebecca and Shelly are really excited about is Idea Insights. After twenty years, there are a lot of ideas out there. Idea Insights provides context into what’s happening right now in four key areas:
The goal is to keep you up to date with everything happening on IdeaExchange. On the other side of things, the product team is making a push to provide more transparency and updates about Ideas, even if it’s something that’s not in the cards right now.
Finally, if you don’t have a lot of time, Rebecca encourages you to take a look at the Salesforce Research Program. All you have to do is fill out a form about yourself, and you’ll only be invited to participate in things that are really relevant to you—we’ll even pay you for your time.
The Research and Insights team wants to hear from you, so be on the lookout for Rebecca and Shelly at a Dreamin’ event near you. And don’t forget to subscribe to the Salesforce Admins Podcast so you never miss an episode.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
And then these days I’m leading a research and insights team. And my team continues to do research with customers to understand what they need from our products, and make sure that we build that into our roadmap. But these days, my team also runs the IdeaExchange, which is I think what we’re mostly here to talk about today.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
And we’ve also launched something called Idea Insights, which the goal of that is to bring more visibility into the ideas that are most important to the community. Kind of take a look at the signal through the noise because there are so many tens of thousands of ideas. How do we know which ones to focus on and which ones to make visible to our product teams? That’s a question that we wrestle with a lot. So those are two of the very concrete ways that we have evolved IdeaExchange recently in the past couple of years.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
So that’s one of the things that we’re trying to do with Idea Insights is really pull out what’s the pulse happening now? What’s most relevant? What are people talking about? And try to bring that to our PMs and really highlight that so that they get a better understanding. They can just kind of more quickly see what’s happening. So I always thought it was a great treasure trove, but you also had to go digging. So that’s our goal. We’re really trying to evolve and bring out those nuggets.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
And so that was a little bit of the impetus behind Roadmap Exchange was, what if we could make it more visible to our community, what product teams are working on or thinking about working on? Maybe it’s not on the roadmap yet, but they’re considering it. What if we could make that all more visible and invite the community to come in and comment on that? Provide feedback, provide use cases, give a lot of that really rich context to our product teams, and really influence the things that are currently being worked on.
And at the same time, we could map some of the ideas to some of the roadmaps and say, “Yes, we are definitely working on some ideas, but we’re also working on a lot of things that you don’t know about that we would love your input on.” So that is one of the ways we’re thinking about this is just increasing the visibility and the opportunities for engagement between our customers and our product teams.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
So I think this is actually kind of the biggest opportunity for admins in terms of spending their time and looking at where they can make an impact because this is when PMs are actually in the process and actively gathering this kind of feedback and wanting to have that conversation. I think over time people are also on the IdeaExchange. They’re understanding a little bit more that what’s most helpful is not just saying, “I want to be able to do X with Y,” but really describing the business context that you’re working in.
When customers and Trailblazers tell us what they’re trying to achieve, it’s super, super helpful for the PM. Because then we actually get the idea of what you’re really trying to do. And it may not be that we provide you exactly what you ask, but we provide you a way to solve that problem. So I would just say that continuing that evolution of that kind of more sophisticated dialogue is really going to be helpful.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Because there are some ideas that have been on there for many years and have had a lot of time to collect votes. And there’s no way that my new idea that’s been around for one week can get the number of votes that an idea has that’s been on there for 10 years. So what this does is really gives us visibility into the current ideas that are getting a lot of recent traction. And I think gives us potentially a better pulse on what’s important to the community right now? And it does give a better chance for folks to get their ideas noticed by product teams because we are elevating this as a new view that people can use to look at.
Mike:
For this to be out in just the world for admins and developers to just sit back and kind of be in reasonable awe about it is like, “Oh man, that’s kind of cool. Now I got an idea of stuff to look for in the release notes.”
Shelly Erceg:
So we’ve had a really big push and we’ve had somebody dedicated to program-wise to just getting updates from PMs about whether or not they’re going to be able to tackle some of the ideas. Trying to provide updates to the top ideas so that we can provide more transparency in that. And I think we are really unique in that way, and we know that it has a big impact on planning and on people’s businesses. So it’s great to be able to try to increase that.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
But to your question about the difference between these channels. You can think of True to the Core as a point in time live opportunity to engage with our product leaders and our product teams. So of course, the keynotes at both Dreamforce and TDX are with our most senior product leaders. And then the new monthly series is with specific product teams and it gives us an opportunity to go deeper and have that live conversation and live engagement.
IdeaExchange, on the other hand, we see that as an always on channel. Meaning you can engage with it whenever you have time. You can kind of monitor it, get updates. So it’s a little bit of point in time and more in depth, and always on, always available feedback channel. And the two are very complimentary. So for example, if a team is doing a true to the core deep dive, we can have them look at their top ideas on IdeaExchange, and engage with the community about those ideas during that phone call and during that conversation.
Mike:
Shelly, I think it’s interesting, it dawned on me that you’re probably one of the rare few people at Salesforce that has perspective on both sides of an idea from both being a PM and having to look and read ideas and respond to them. To now working with customers and understanding the IdeaExchange and reading through the ideas as they come in and probably work with customers, I don’t want to put words in your mouth. But work with customers as they’re building these ideas. What insight can you provide that I think is a learning having been on both sides of that idea as it would be?
Shelly Erceg:
And I actually recently made something for my colleagues in research and insights called How a PM Decides. And it was a massive matrix of all the factors that went into PM decision making. Everything from business strategy to whether or not fixing something required the coordination, even though if the fixing “was actually quite technically easy.” But if it required the coordination of several teams across the platform, then that raised the complexity, right?
So you’re always trying to juggle, what can I get done with the people I have? Do I have the expertise to fix that? Will I be able to work with other teams? Or are there roadmaps pulling them somewhere where I know I won’t get their time? So it’s always such a matrix trying to figure out what you can deliver. But I will say that there is just this push for PMs to deliver value. And on the other side, I think really the goal is that we need to provide as much transparency about that as possible. Because I think people really do understand once we talk with them. I know the conversations I’ve had with customers when I’ve said, “Hey, this doesn’t look like something I’m going to be able to provide, and here’s why.” People get it because we’re all human.
So I just want to say keep the ideas and sharing your use cases, keep that coming. It’s all super, super helpful. We’re working, it’s work you probably don’t hear about because it’s invisible. But my team is also working on ways to more efficiently get these ideas and input that internal employees get from their conversations with customers into the product life cycle. So we’re working a lot on that and being able to give PMs a better view of what their customers need in particular areas. So I would just say absolutely just keep erring on the side. Your voice is not going into the ether we promise. Just keep erring on the side of sharing what you’re trying to accomplish and know that there’s a really big effort to continue making customers successful.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
So I would say we are listening. We cannot build great products without deeply understanding what you need and why you need it. And that is the number one reason why I would love for folks to continue engaging in IdeaExchange. Maybe you haven’t been there in a while, maybe you are feeling like it wasn’t getting looked at. To Shelly’s point, we are doing a lot of work right now behind the scenes to evolve that, to change that. So I would love for folks to give us another try. I would love for folks to check out Roadmap Exchange.
I’ll also give a shout-out that if you are limited in time and you want to really focus your efforts and how you provide feedback to Salesforce, check out the research program. You can sign up to do a one-on-one session, or a survey to influence some of the research work that’s happening within our teams. And those are very, very focused. Like you can fill out a form that tells us which products you use, a bit of information about yourself and your company. And we will only invite you to participate in things that are really relevant to you. So that can be a really great way to give focused feedback.
You also get an incentive for your time as a reimbursement. So it can be just a really nice way. Again, if you’re limited on time and you don’t want to be writing ideas, you can have a conversation with a researcher on the team, and that’s another way to influence the product roadmap.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
So we’re going to go to, I hope, three or four different Dreamin’ events. And we’re going to be out there at TDX, of course, and Dreamforce. And be just looking to spend more time listening to admins, finding out what it is they need and how we can help.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
That we are doing our best to listen. We know we have room to grow, we have space to do better. But I do want, at the end of the day, I want to make sure that they’re heard and that they have the transparency they need to make the decisions that they need to make. So yeah, Shelly and I, our doors are always open. We love to hear from the community how we can continue to improve that for them.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Mike:
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Today on the Salesforce Admins Podcast, we talk to Rebecca Sherrill, VP, and Shelly Erceg, Product Leader, both on the Salesforce Research and Insights team. Join us as we chat about the newest updates to IdeaExchange, including RoadmapExchange and Idea Insights, and why now is the perfect time to get involved.
You should subscribe for the full episode, but here are a few takeaways from our conversation with Rebecca Sherrill and Shelly Erceg.
If you’ve ever wondered what happens after you submit an Idea to the IdeaExchange, this episode is for you. The Product Research and Insights team has been working on several new things to improve transparency and enhance collaboration between PMs and the Salesforce community.
Joining us for this episode are Rebecca Sherrill and Shelly Erceg. Rebecca started at Salesforce in user research, where she talked to, interviewed, and observed hundreds of admins to better understand their needs. “I have a huge appreciation for the admin community because I spent so much time with them during those years,” she says.
Shelly, meanwhile, started as a PM on workflow and process automation tools, building products like Process Builder and part of the Flow engine. “Admins are my jam,” she says. On the Product Research and Insights team, she’s focused on IdeaExchange and True to the Core.
Together, they’re here to tell us about how RoadmapExchange and Idea Insights will help you see how your feedback influences the product roadmap.
If you’ve ever submitted to IdeaExchange, it’s natural to ask yourself, “How do I know if they’re working on my Idea? Is it ever going to be implemented? If not, why?”
That was the impetus behind RoadmapExchange, which maps ideas to Salesforce product roadmaps. The goal is to offer a peek behind the curtain, allowing you to see what the product team is working on right now and what they’re considering for the future. Most importantly, it allows the community to provide feedback and use cases to help guide the product team’s decisions.
“It’s an opportunity to help shape what we build,” Shelly says, and it also gives you a better idea of what’s coming so you don’t waste resources solving a problem that the product team is already working on.
The other IdeaExchange feature that Rebecca and Shelly are really excited about is Idea Insights. After twenty years, there are a lot of ideas out there. Idea Insights provides context into what’s happening right now in four key areas:
The goal is to keep you up to date with everything happening on IdeaExchange. On the other side of things, the product team is making a push to provide more transparency and updates about Ideas, even if it’s something that’s not in the cards right now.
Finally, if you don’t have a lot of time, Rebecca encourages you to take a look at the Salesforce Research Program. All you have to do is fill out a form about yourself, and you’ll only be invited to participate in things that are really relevant to you—we’ll even pay you for your time.
The Research and Insights team wants to hear from you, so be on the lookout for Rebecca and Shelly at a Dreamin’ event near you. And don’t forget to subscribe to the Salesforce Admins Podcast so you never miss an episode.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
And then these days I’m leading a research and insights team. And my team continues to do research with customers to understand what they need from our products, and make sure that we build that into our roadmap. But these days, my team also runs the IdeaExchange, which is I think what we’re mostly here to talk about today.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
And we’ve also launched something called Idea Insights, which the goal of that is to bring more visibility into the ideas that are most important to the community. Kind of take a look at the signal through the noise because there are so many tens of thousands of ideas. How do we know which ones to focus on and which ones to make visible to our product teams? That’s a question that we wrestle with a lot. So those are two of the very concrete ways that we have evolved IdeaExchange recently in the past couple of years.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
So that’s one of the things that we’re trying to do with Idea Insights is really pull out what’s the pulse happening now? What’s most relevant? What are people talking about? And try to bring that to our PMs and really highlight that so that they get a better understanding. They can just kind of more quickly see what’s happening. So I always thought it was a great treasure trove, but you also had to go digging. So that’s our goal. We’re really trying to evolve and bring out those nuggets.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
And so that was a little bit of the impetus behind Roadmap Exchange was, what if we could make it more visible to our community, what product teams are working on or thinking about working on? Maybe it’s not on the roadmap yet, but they’re considering it. What if we could make that all more visible and invite the community to come in and comment on that? Provide feedback, provide use cases, give a lot of that really rich context to our product teams, and really influence the things that are currently being worked on.
And at the same time, we could map some of the ideas to some of the roadmaps and say, “Yes, we are definitely working on some ideas, but we’re also working on a lot of things that you don’t know about that we would love your input on.” So that is one of the ways we’re thinking about this is just increasing the visibility and the opportunities for engagement between our customers and our product teams.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
So I think this is actually kind of the biggest opportunity for admins in terms of spending their time and looking at where they can make an impact because this is when PMs are actually in the process and actively gathering this kind of feedback and wanting to have that conversation. I think over time people are also on the IdeaExchange. They’re understanding a little bit more that what’s most helpful is not just saying, “I want to be able to do X with Y,” but really describing the business context that you’re working in.
When customers and Trailblazers tell us what they’re trying to achieve, it’s super, super helpful for the PM. Because then we actually get the idea of what you’re really trying to do. And it may not be that we provide you exactly what you ask, but we provide you a way to solve that problem. So I would just say that continuing that evolution of that kind of more sophisticated dialogue is really going to be helpful.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Because there are some ideas that have been on there for many years and have had a lot of time to collect votes. And there’s no way that my new idea that’s been around for one week can get the number of votes that an idea has that’s been on there for 10 years. So what this does is really gives us visibility into the current ideas that are getting a lot of recent traction. And I think gives us potentially a better pulse on what’s important to the community right now? And it does give a better chance for folks to get their ideas noticed by product teams because we are elevating this as a new view that people can use to look at.
Mike:
For this to be out in just the world for admins and developers to just sit back and kind of be in reasonable awe about it is like, “Oh man, that’s kind of cool. Now I got an idea of stuff to look for in the release notes.”
Shelly Erceg:
So we’ve had a really big push and we’ve had somebody dedicated to program-wise to just getting updates from PMs about whether or not they’re going to be able to tackle some of the ideas. Trying to provide updates to the top ideas so that we can provide more transparency in that. And I think we are really unique in that way, and we know that it has a big impact on planning and on people’s businesses. So it’s great to be able to try to increase that.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
But to your question about the difference between these channels. You can think of True to the Core as a point in time live opportunity to engage with our product leaders and our product teams. So of course, the keynotes at both Dreamforce and TDX are with our most senior product leaders. And then the new monthly series is with specific product teams and it gives us an opportunity to go deeper and have that live conversation and live engagement.
IdeaExchange, on the other hand, we see that as an always on channel. Meaning you can engage with it whenever you have time. You can kind of monitor it, get updates. So it’s a little bit of point in time and more in depth, and always on, always available feedback channel. And the two are very complimentary. So for example, if a team is doing a true to the core deep dive, we can have them look at their top ideas on IdeaExchange, and engage with the community about those ideas during that phone call and during that conversation.
Mike:
Shelly, I think it’s interesting, it dawned on me that you’re probably one of the rare few people at Salesforce that has perspective on both sides of an idea from both being a PM and having to look and read ideas and respond to them. To now working with customers and understanding the IdeaExchange and reading through the ideas as they come in and probably work with customers, I don’t want to put words in your mouth. But work with customers as they’re building these ideas. What insight can you provide that I think is a learning having been on both sides of that idea as it would be?
Shelly Erceg:
And I actually recently made something for my colleagues in research and insights called How a PM Decides. And it was a massive matrix of all the factors that went into PM decision making. Everything from business strategy to whether or not fixing something required the coordination, even though if the fixing “was actually quite technically easy.” But if it required the coordination of several teams across the platform, then that raised the complexity, right?
So you’re always trying to juggle, what can I get done with the people I have? Do I have the expertise to fix that? Will I be able to work with other teams? Or are there roadmaps pulling them somewhere where I know I won’t get their time? So it’s always such a matrix trying to figure out what you can deliver. But I will say that there is just this push for PMs to deliver value. And on the other side, I think really the goal is that we need to provide as much transparency about that as possible. Because I think people really do understand once we talk with them. I know the conversations I’ve had with customers when I’ve said, “Hey, this doesn’t look like something I’m going to be able to provide, and here’s why.” People get it because we’re all human.
So I just want to say keep the ideas and sharing your use cases, keep that coming. It’s all super, super helpful. We’re working, it’s work you probably don’t hear about because it’s invisible. But my team is also working on ways to more efficiently get these ideas and input that internal employees get from their conversations with customers into the product life cycle. So we’re working a lot on that and being able to give PMs a better view of what their customers need in particular areas. So I would just say absolutely just keep erring on the side. Your voice is not going into the ether we promise. Just keep erring on the side of sharing what you’re trying to accomplish and know that there’s a really big effort to continue making customers successful.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
So I would say we are listening. We cannot build great products without deeply understanding what you need and why you need it. And that is the number one reason why I would love for folks to continue engaging in IdeaExchange. Maybe you haven’t been there in a while, maybe you are feeling like it wasn’t getting looked at. To Shelly’s point, we are doing a lot of work right now behind the scenes to evolve that, to change that. So I would love for folks to give us another try. I would love for folks to check out Roadmap Exchange.
I’ll also give a shout-out that if you are limited in time and you want to really focus your efforts and how you provide feedback to Salesforce, check out the research program. You can sign up to do a one-on-one session, or a survey to influence some of the research work that’s happening within our teams. And those are very, very focused. Like you can fill out a form that tells us which products you use, a bit of information about yourself and your company. And we will only invite you to participate in things that are really relevant to you. So that can be a really great way to give focused feedback.
You also get an incentive for your time as a reimbursement. So it can be just a really nice way. Again, if you’re limited on time and you don’t want to be writing ideas, you can have a conversation with a researcher on the team, and that’s another way to influence the product roadmap.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
So we’re going to go to, I hope, three or four different Dreamin’ events. And we’re going to be out there at TDX, of course, and Dreamforce. And be just looking to spend more time listening to admins, finding out what it is they need and how we can help.
Mike:
Rebecca Sherrill:
That we are doing our best to listen. We know we have room to grow, we have space to do better. But I do want, at the end of the day, I want to make sure that they’re heard and that they have the transparency they need to make the decisions that they need to make. So yeah, Shelly and I, our doors are always open. We love to hear from the community how we can continue to improve that for them.
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Mike:
Shelly Erceg:
Rebecca Sherrill:
Mike:
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