Mikki Williden, PhD is a Registered Nutritionist in Auckland, New Zealand specializing in sports and performance nutrition. I met Mikki at the Ancestral Health Symposium in Boulder, Colorado in 2016, and she has recently launched a new podcast called Mikkipedia as an exploration of all things health, well being, fitness, food and nutrition. She kindly invited me on as a guest, which of course is a role reversal for me.

On this podcast, Mikki and I discuss my personal health journey and what motivated me to start NBT. We get into some detail, including what my life looked like before I knew anything about health and the specific steps that got me headed in the right direction. We talk about bike racing and business and how both have evolved for me, as well as the habits that I’ve built to maintain my current state of health and performance.

Here’s the outline of this podcast with Mikki Williden:

[00:00:19] Christopher Kelly on Robb Wolf’s Paleo Solution podcast.

[00:01:50] Robb Wolf’s podcast, The Healthy Rebellion.

[00:02:24] Chris's health journey.

[00:03:18] Mikki’s interview with Greg Potter, on The Mikkipedia Podcast.

[00:04:21] Book: The Paleo Diet for Athletes: The Ancient Nutritional Formula for Peak Athletic Performance, by Loren Cordain and Joe Friel.

[00:05:38] Autoimmune Protocol (AIP) diet.

[00:06:45] Chris Kelly on Ben Greenfield's podcast.

[00:11:36] Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (REDS); Podcast: How to Identify and Treat Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (RED-S); with Nicky Keay.

[00:14:51] Mickey Trescott’s books on AIP.

[00:17:22] Framing interventions in terms of performance.

[00:20:43] Diet changes over time.

[00:20:59] Keto Summit; Jeremy and Louise Hendon.

[00:21:59] Dom D’Agostino, PhD.

[00:22:53] Problems with the Keto diet.

[00:24:15] Podcasts featuring Katie compton and Jeremy Powers.

[00:26:01] Racing and fueling.

[00:28:25] Changing goals: from performance to healthspan.

[00:30:51] Book: Tiny Habits: The Small Changes That Change Everything, by BJ Fogg, PhD.

[00:31:04] B Strong blood flow restriction training; Podcast: Blood Flow Restriction Training for Improved Strength, Performance, and Healthspan, with Jim Stray-Gundersen, MD.

[00:35:33] NBT over time - changes in approach.

[00:37:44] Supervised machine learning; bloodsmart.ai.

[00:40:09] Stephen Genuis, PhD; Multiple studies on toxicants excreted in sweat.

[00:44:11] Identifying your values; Motivational interviewing, Acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT).

[00:45:49] Services offered by NBT; book a free 15-minute starter session.

[00:46:54] Podcast: How to Manage Stress, with Simon Marshall, PhD.

[00:48:39] Intermountain Risk Score. Study: Horne BD, May HT, Muhlestein JB, Ronnow BS, Lappé DL, Renlund DG, et al. Exceptional mortality prediction by risk scores from common laboratory tests. Am J Med. 2009;122: 550–558.

[00:48:57] PhenoAge; Podcast: How to Measure Your Biological Age, with Megan Hall.

[00:52:32] Supplements: Thorne Multi-Vitamin Elite, Thorne Creatine.

[00:54:56] A day in the life of Chris Kelly.

[00:56:30] Podcast: Air Pollution Is a Cause of Endothelial Injury, Systemic Inflammation and Cardiovascular Disease, with Arden Pope, PhD.

[00:59:49] California wildfires.

[01:02:28] Cliff Harvey.

[01:03:04] Influential podcast guests.

[01:03:41] Podcasts with Malcolm Kendrick: Why Cholesterol Levels Have No Effect on Cardiovascular Disease (And Things to Think about Instead) and A Statin Nation: Damaging Millions in a Brave New Post-health World.

[01:04:38] Podcasts with Stephanie Welch: Disruptive Anthropology: An Ancestral Health Perspective on Barefooting and Male Circumcision and The Need for Tribal Living in a Modern World.

[01:04:48] Josh Turknett, MD, president of Physicians for Ancestral Health; Podcasts include The Migraine Miracle, How to Protect Your Brain from Decline, and How to Support Childhood Cognitive Development.

[01:05:51] Book: The WEIRDest People in the World: How the West Became Psychologically Peculiar and Particularly Prosperous, by Joe Henrich.

[01:06:44] My Migraine Miracle; Book: Migraine Miracle: A Sugar-Free, Gluten-Free Ancestral Diet to Reduce Inflammation and Relieve Your Headaches for Good; Video: Migraine as the Hypothalamic Distress Signal — Joshua Turknett, M.D. (AHS14).

[01:08:44] How To Win At Angry Birds: The Ancestral Therapeutic Paradigm - AHS19. Podcast: How to Win at Angry Birds: The Ancestral Paradigm for a Therapeutic Revolution; 4-quadrant model.  

[01:14:05] NBT’s retainer program.