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Today I brought on my favorite sad girl, Nora Taylor, to discuss melancholy, sadness, and depression, as explored in my last newsletter, #32: Stimulants. But it’s also fun! Nora is an editor at Clever for Architectural Digest. We met at Man Repeller (where she wrote about things like Sauce Men, the Caesar haircut, and Tom Hanks) and initially bonded over our love of Phoebe Bridgers (yes…that’s me and Avi coving “Smoke Signals” for today’s intro song…lol!). Nora is a strange bird whom I truly cherish and I’m livid that I forgot to ask her about her dream of being a mailwoman. Here we are just before our “writers retreat” upstate in 2018—a very special story we save for the end:

Some links to things we mention:

-“Look at My Beautiful F*****g Hands,” by Nora herself-In Defense of Saccharin(e), by Leslie Jamison, an incredible essay that’s unfortunately not online but is part of her collection, The Empathy Exams, which I highly recommend-“Finding Quietness in a Loud World,” by Harmony Holiday for Frieze-“3 Older Women on What Actually Gets Better With Age,” by Nora-ASMR Massage With Phoebe Bridgers by It’sBlitzzz-“Deliverance” by Yanni

Thanks for listening!Haley

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