What does it mean to be a mystic in the modern age? Many of us think of mysticism as something for spiritual masters who lock themselves away from the world in monasteries and convents and dedicate their lives to constant prayer. But we are all called to a close and yes mystical relationship with God and to lead lives of contemplation. And today's guest, Kelly Deutsch, wants to help people do just that.

After entering a convent, Kelly came down with an illness that left her bedridden for 18 months—and spurred great spiritual desolation and growth. She went on to found Wanderlust, a center for contemplative formation, which provides podcasts, courses and other spiritual resources to those hunger for a closer union with the divine.

And in Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss a new report on clergy burnout and the at-times deceptive ways Catholic political groups try to sway voters.

Links from the show

New study of priests shows a distrust of bishops, fears of false sex abuse allegations and widespread burnout

‘The Catholic Church is always politically nonpartisan’: Arizona bishops warn voters of groups claiming to represent the church

Spiritual Wanderlust

People of God: How Catholic Parish Life is Changing in the United States

What’s on tap?

Seltzer Water with Lime

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