GTM Live

How to Build Mindshare in the New SEO Era (With Sam Dunning)


Listen Later

This week on GTM Live, Carolyn sits down with Sam Dunning, SEO leader and B2B growth expert, to unpack how SEO has dramatically evolved and what top-performing companies must do to adapt.

They dive into why traditional SEO—focused on keywords, rankings, and traffic—is now too siloed, and how modern SEO needs to align with revenue, messaging, and the full customer journey.

They also explore outdated SEO metrics, the pitfalls of last-touch attribution, and why shifting to a revenue-influence mindset is essential.

You’ll hear what modern SEO looks like in a revenue-led org, how category narrative (not keyword stuffing) is the new growth lever, and how AI is reshaping both content production and search behavior.

Together, Carolyn and Sam challenge the idea that SEO can be a standalone marketing channel, it’s a powerful GTM distribution engine when done right.

Key topics in this episode:

  • Why SEO can’t be a silo anymore

  • How to reframe SEO as a distribution strategy, not just a traffic engine

  • Why aligning SEO with your company’s POV drives better outcomes

  • How AI is reshaping the content and SEO landscape

  • Why B2B companies need to track influence, not just rankings or leads

  • The biggest SEO measurement mistakes teams still make

  • What high-performing teams are doing differently with content

📣 Share this with any marketer or RevOps leader still tracking SEO like it’s 2015.

This episode is powered by ⁠⁠Passetto, a GTM advisory and software company that helps B2B SaaS teams achieve true Revenue Visibility. We work alongside revenue leaders to expose data blind spots, build the right data infrastructure, and eliminate the pipeline black hole. Visit ⁠⁠passetto.com⁠.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

GTM LiveBy Passetto

  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9
  • 4.9

4.9

201 ratings


More shows like GTM Live

View all
Freakonomics Radio by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Freakonomics Radio

32,261 Listeners

The Tim Ferriss Show by Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

The Tim Ferriss Show

16,175 Listeners

The Bill Simmons Podcast by The Ringer

The Bill Simmons Podcast

30,176 Listeners

Economist Podcasts by The Economist

Economist Podcasts

4,218 Listeners

The Official SaaStr Podcast: SaaS | Founders | Investors by SaaStr

The Official SaaStr Podcast: SaaS | Founders | Investors

178 Listeners

Pivot by New York Magazine

Pivot

9,759 Listeners

The a16z Show by Andreessen Horowitz

The a16z Show

1,107 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

113,483 Listeners

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat by New York Times Opinion

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

7,254 Listeners

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway by Vox Media Podcast Network

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

5,662 Listeners

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg by All-In Podcast, LLC

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

10,223 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,539 Listeners

The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five) by Exit Five

The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)

47 Listeners

Marketing Against The Grain by Hubspot Media

Marketing Against The Grain

358 Listeners

We Are ENCODED by Chris Walker

We Are ENCODED

5 Listeners