In this gripping episode, NYT bestselling author and investigative journalist Howard Blum joins Hidden Killers to dissect a moment that could hold the emotional key to understanding the entire Bryan Kohberger case: a 6 a.m. phone call made just hours after the University of Idaho murders, from Bryan to a phone registered to his father, Michael Kohberger. What was said on that call? Why does it matter? And how did it shape everything that followed — from the legal strategy to the plea deal?

According to Blum’s exclusive reporting, Bryan may have spent the bulk of that conversation speaking to his mother, and the contents of the call sent ripples through the family that changed the course of the case. Blum walks us through what his sources revealed about the emotional state of the Kohberger household, and how the mother’s refusal to accept a guilty plea — possibly based on what was said during that call — may have delayed the prosecution’s path forward.

This episode doesn’t just unpack speculation. It connects the behavioral shifts, the timeline of events, and the ripple effect that one 54-minute call may have had on the lives of everyone involved — including the defense's strategic collapse and the looming threat of testimony from the parents themselves. With Robin Dreeke offering behavioral insight and Tony Brueski guiding the conversation, we explore how the most private conversation of Kohberger’s life may become one of the most revealing.

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