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Kathi Enderes, Senior Vice President of Research and Global Industry Analyst at The Josh Bersin Company, joins us in this episode to explore why compensation practices have stagnated and how organizations can modernize their approach to pay.

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Kathi!
• Today’s Topic: Breaking Free From Outdated Pay Practices

[5:13] How has compensation evolved in recent decades?

• Why most organizations still use 40-year-old compensation models
• Connecting compensation to employee experience

[13:40] How can organizations make compensation more accessible?

• The power of simplifying compensation communication
• Building stakeholder buy-in for process changes

[23:10] Should organizations replace merit programs with targeted incentive programs?

• Reimagining performance-based compensation
• Aligning pay reviews with business cycles

[31:39] Closing

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“In all areas of HR . . . if we speak our own language, business won’t understand it and you’re not going to gain any credibility.”

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Noelle London, Founder and CEO of Illoominus, joins us in this episode to discuss the strides people analytics has made over the years, how the intersection of compensation and people analytics gives leaders another tool to better steer their organizations, and what organizations can expect of AI once the hype subsides. 

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Noelle!
• Today’s Topic: How AI is Shaping the Future of People Analytics

[4:52] How are organizations using people analytics?

• How various HR tech vendors are tackling data management challenges
• People analytics is now accessible to organizations of all sizes, not just large enterprises

[9:44] How do compensation and people analytics intersect?

• How leaders can use compensation data to manage rapid changes in organizations
• The importance of making people analytics and data science accessible to leaders

[20:35] Beyond the hype cycles, how will AI change HR?

• How organizations are preparing for AI adoption while protecting data integrity
• Key conversations organizations should be having about AI’s role in HR

[29:40] Closing

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“HR is not administrative. Organizations that look at HR as administrative are not truly seeing . . . that investing in your people is investing in your business.”

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Stacia Garr, Co-founder and Principal Analyst at RedThread Research, joins us this episode to explore the current state of AI in HR technology. Stacia dives into how vendors’ AI expectations often diverge from those of their customers and examines the disconnect in how employers and employees relate to AI in the workplace.

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Stacia!
• Today’s Topic: Can AI Deliver on Its Big Promises for HR?

[4:33] How has HR technology evolved in recent years?

• Data, not technology, may be driving recent HR tech acquisitions
• Why people analytics could make traditional benchmarking obsolete

[15:51] Beyond the hype cycle, where does AI land in the world of HR?

• Comparing vendor vs. customer expectations for AI
• HR technology vendors’ vision for AI

[25:46] Is 2025 the year HR embraces and adopts AI?

• The disconnect between employer and employee perspectives on AI
• Addressing dystopian future concerns

[34:56] Closing

• Large Action Models may be the next big leap in AI
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“Many of the [HR technology] acquisitions that are happening now are less about the technology and more about the data”

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Jay Polaki is the Founder and CEO of HR Geckos™ and the host of the HR Bytes™ Podcast. In this episode, Jay unpacks HR trends that everyone should be following in 2025, what happens when AI gets assigned the role of administrative assistant, and how AI will realistically contribute to HR once the hype settles. 

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Jay!
• Today’s Topic: What AI Can (and Cannot) Do for HR

[3:16] What’s the latest HR tech trend everyone should be following in 2025?

• Why AI is more than just the latest trend
• What an HR AI assistant could offer employees

[11:27] How does HR change if AI is used for administrative assistance?

• HR will never be fully automated, but HR workflows will need to integrate AI
• How AI could simplify HR jargon for non-HR employees

[17:16] What will AI be bringing to the table once the hype cycle dies down?

• AI “ownership” within an organization
• How different generations perceive AI

[32:44] Closing

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Quick Quote

“HR can never be automated 100% . . . the ‘H’ in ‘HR’ [stands for] ‘human,’ but the way AI is evolving, we can’t just sit back and say we’re not going to embed it into our workflow.”

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Susan Richards is the Founder and Managing Partner of Sapient Insights Group. In this episode, Susan discusses the evolution of HR tech over the past year, the role consultants play in helping organizations effectively implement AI into their HR workflows, and how to prepare AI models to assist with administrative tasks.

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Susan!
• Today’s Topic: Building Confidence in AI Tools

[5:14] How has HR tech evolved in the last year?

• The innovation cycle of HR tech companies
• The growing importance of support services around new technology

[11:53] Do organizations need consultants for AI implementation?

• Why training AI models on clean, reliable data is essential
• Building trust through strong data governance

[21:47] How does HR use AI for administrative assistance?

• Ensuring AI models are properly trained
• Building confidence in working with AI tools and delegating repetitive tasks

[32:32] Closing

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“I believe there are a lot of compliant-related tasks that could be handled by an [AI model], and it could be done consistently, on time, and keep us out of hot water.”

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Mark Stelzner is the Founder and Managing Principal of IA, an HR consulting firm. In this episode, Mark discusses what people aren’t talking about when it comes to AI; why organizations should let their employees safely explore AI in the workplace; and how basic AI guidelines and data governance can be transformational. 

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Mark!
• Today’s Topic: Practical AI Integration in the Workplace

[2:47] What are we missing when it comes to AI?

• Insights on client readiness and typical gaps in AI understanding
• Discussion on who should own AI responsibilities in an organization

[11:41] How can organizations safely explore AI?

• Why employees need a safe playground to experiment with AI
• The capabilities AI can unlock for employees

[22:49] What role does data governance play in an organization’s AI rollout?

• Differentiating AI use within and outside the workplace
• Emphasizing intentional exploration, clear guidelines, and ethical AI use

[32:26] Closing

• Thanks for listening!

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“If an organization has not invested in content that is accurate [and refreshed], an AI model will hallucinate . . . because the large language model is sourcing from content which is not truly authoritative.”

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Danielle Bushen, Global Head of People Analytics Data Governance and Stewardship at Sanofi, joins us to explore how people analytics intersects with compensation. She shares insights on modernizing compensation through data-driven practices, the importance of pay transparency, and the role of well-designed HR processes in the successful integration of AI.

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Danielle!
• Today’s Topic: Navigating Pay Transparency with People Analytics

[3:08] When and how do people analytics and compensation intersect? 

• How people analytics and technology can drive compensation modernization
• Education as the key to achieving pay transparency

[15:45] How should organizations approach pay transparency compliance?

• Cultural shifts in discussing pay transparency
• The role of data governance in ensuring pay transparency

[33:47] How can organizations intentionally integrate AI into their HR systems?

• How good process design supports AI implementation
• Key considerations for maintaining new HR technologies

[42:40] Closing

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“I think the world of pay transparency is moving in exactly the same direction that data privacy went.”

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This episode features two conversations that took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

Tracie Sponenberg is a Fractional Chief People Officer and Consultant for the distribution industry. In part one of this episode, she talks about why some organizations are slower to adopt new HR tech than others; the importance of adopting new technology with strong ethics and data governance; and how compensation has been affected by the latest developments in AI. 

Adriana DiNenno is the Senior Product Manager at Health eCareers. In part two of this episode, she talks about how emerging HR technology can help both job seekers and recruiters save lots of time; how pay transparency regulations will affect recruitment; and how AI-based recruitment systems won’t create an emotional connection with job seekers. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Tracie and Adriana!
• Today’s Topic: From Paper to AI: Navigating the HR Tech Revolution

[1:20] Part One: Evolution of HR Tech with Tracie Sponenberg

• [3:11] Despite massive leaps in HR technology, many organizations are still using pen and paper systems
• [8:08] Why AI tools should always be approached with ethics and data governance in mind
• [13:36] How emerging HR tech affects compensation and why training will be so important
• [18:09] What role with AI play in HR once the hype dies down?

[25:33] Part Two: Evolution of Recruitment Technology with Adriana DiNenno

• [27:38] How HR tech can help convert more job postings and avoid candidates “ghosting” interviews
• [36:45] How pay transparency will affect recruitment
• [40:05] How AI’s lack of emotional connection might affect recruitment

Quick Quote 

“I found, in healthcare, within my own data set . . . that [job] seekers are more likely to view [job postings] and apply when the compensation and salary are listed.” -Adriana DiNenno

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Tim Sackett is an HR Technology Analyst, a Top 10 Global HR Influencer, and the President of HRU Technical Resources. In this episode, Tim discusses the state of recruiting and applicant tracking systems, and how he thinks AI could help organizations not just scale their recruiting efforts but also eliminate biases. He also addresses some security concerns organizations have with integrating AI into their recruitment systems. 

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Tim!
• Today’s Topic: The Evolution of Recruitment and Application Tracking Systems

[4:50] How is recruiting technology evolving?

• How some HR tech startups are looking to solve recruitment issues
• Why many HR tech startups seem to offer similar products

[12:01] Have there been noteworthy developments in recruiting technology?

• Why AI is not as biased as people think
• How voice AIs could humanize the recruitment process

[20:03] How can organizations avoid AI safety and security pitfalls?

• The limits of public LLMs vs. the possibilities of private LLMs
• Best practices for ensuring security and data safety when adopting AI

[32:26] Closing

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“We had this concept a year ago—maybe two years ago—where [we thought] ‘the technology is more biased than humans,’ and it was wrong . . . I truly believe the closest we’ll come to bias-free hiring is the use of AI in sourcing and screening.”

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Richard Rosenow is the VP of People Analytics Strategy at One Model. In this episode, Richard discusses the rapid evolution of HR technology and the role AI plays in enhancing productivity. He highlights how AI is helping employees focus on higher-value tasks and shares insights into the future of partnerships in HR tech. 

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Richard!
• Today’s Topic: How AI Might Make You Better at Your Job

[2:57] How has HR Tech evolved over the last year?

• AI’s shift from answering questions to taking actionable steps within HR systems
• Why human involvement is still crucial in AI-powered workflows

[10:22] How AI enables employees to focus on value-added tasks

• The evolving relationship between AI tools and HR analytics
• Why HR tech is evolving separately from people analytics and how this impacts workplace strategies
• The advantages of enterprise-level AI solutions over consumer-facing ones

[23:59] What else is changing besides AI?

• How partnerships are evolving due to advancements in AI

[26:19] Closing

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“If I can leverage technology to get me to 90/10 consulting vs. data engineering, I can do a lot more of the stuff that I’m paid to do.”

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