How can HR use data to drive change?

Why is being “data driven” no longer a nice to have, but rather an expectation for HR leaders

My guest on this episode is Sebastian Wernicke, author of “Data Inspired”

During our conversation Sebastian and I discuss the following:

• How the best data work starts by trying to prove yourself wrong
• Why HR leaders must become critical consumers of data
• How to start with the business problem, not the available data
• Why data-inspired organizations rest on three foundations: data literacy, a digital mindset, and a data culture

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Why should HR think of themselves as the business instead of supporting the business?

How can AI amplify human potential and performance?

My guest on this episode is Vicki Walia, Chief People and Experience Officer at Prudential Financial

During our conversation Vicki and I discuss the following:

• Why HR leaders need to see themselves as part of the business, not partners to it.
• How AI can amplify human potential and performance.
• How Vicki thinks about the AI "time dividend” and who should get the benefit.
• Why a high performance culture starts at the individual level.
• Why clarity, tools, and candid feedback are the three ingredients teams need.

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can the power of the pause make you an even more effective HR leader?

Why do HR leaders need to have a point of view and the courage to share it?

My guest on this episode is Michael Fraccaro, Former CPO at Mastercard, Senior Advisor at Egon Zehnder

During our conversation Michael and I discuss the following:

• Why your credibility as a CHRO is built on your understanding of the business, not HR
• How the power of the pause transforms decision quality
• Why culture is a leadership behavior, not a program
• How courage, not technical knowledge is the real differentiator for HR leaders who want to move from good to great
• Why the CHRO pipeline challenge is less about technical skills and more about mindset, grit, and learning agility

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can you build an AI-Ready workforce?

Why is AI a leadership issue and not a technology issue?

My guest on this episode is Charlene Li, author of “Winning with AI,” speaker, and disruptive leadership expert

During our conversation Charlene and I discuss the following:

• Why AI-first is the wrong frame for most organizations, and how AI-ready puts your people and strategy back at the center
• How AI fluency differs from AI literacy
• Why tools, training, and time are the three T's every leader needs to invest in
• How to think about agentic AI through four practical questions
• Why automating existing processes is not enough and we use AI to rethink the work itself

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can HR leaders learn to sell without selling?

Why should every HR leader think of themselves as a salesperson?

My guest on this episode is Brendan McAdams, B2B Sales Coach & Consultant and author of ‘Sales Craft’

During our conversation Brendan and I discuss the following:

• Why every HR leader is already in sales, whether they call it that or not
• How sales is really the work of helping someone make a better decision that is right for them
• Why status quo is often the strongest competitor to any HR initiative, and what to do about it.
• How surfacing objections out loud ("killing the deal") builds trust and accelerates real buy-in
• Why "if we do this, who loses?" is one of the most useful questions an HR leader can ask

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can organizations use executive assessments to make better decisions?

Why do you need to build your Executive Assessment fluency to have more impact as an HR leader?

My guest on this episode is Mina Morris, Managing Director and Head of Assessments at Accenture

During our conversation Mina and I discuss the following:

• Why executive assessment should start with business strategy, not tools, models, or methodologies.
• How using multiple data sources creates a more complete and accurate view of executive talent.
• Why executive assessment should be the start of the development conversation, not the end.
• How executive assessment helps organizations identify “diamonds in the rough” within their leadership pipeline.
• Why executive assessment without development is just measurement.

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can your culture become a competitive advantage?

Why is engagement not just an HR metric, but a driver of business performance?

My guest on this episode is Bala Sathyanarayanan, EVP and CHRO, Greif Inc.

During our conversation Bala and I discuss the following:

• Why culture is the operating system that determines whether strategy succeeds or fails.
• Why engagement is not just an HR metric, but a leading indicator of customer and business performance.
• How organizations that focus on systems outperform those that focus only on outcomes.
• Why HR’s credibility depends on its ability to create measurable business value.
• Why great organizations are never “great,” they are always chasing it.

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can we reclaim control when it feels like work has hijacked our lives?

Why is managing stress becoming more important than reducing it?

My guest on this episode is Guy Winch, psychologist, TED speaker, and author of the new book “Mind Over Grind: How to Break Free When Work Hijacks Your Life”

During our conversation Guy and I discuss the following:

• Why burnout continues to rise despite increased investment in wellbeing programs.
• How work is increasingly “hijacking” people’s time, attention, and relationships.
• Why high performers are often the most vulnerable to burnout.
• How a simple end-of-day ritual can train your brain to shift from work mode to personal life.
• How more open conversations about stress can prevent burnout before it becomes a crisis.

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Learn more about Guy’s book, “Mind Over Grind: How to Break Free When Work Hijacks Your Life.”

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

How can leaders make work both fun and drive high-performance?

Why do the high performers find joy in intense work?

My guests on this episode are Bree Groff, workplace expert and author of “Today was Fun,” and Mary Kate Stimmler, Practitioner Fellow at the Center for Advanced Studies in Behavioral Sciences at Stanford

During our conversation, Bree, Mary Kate, and I discuss the following:

• Why the belief that high performance requires pressure and sacrifice is flawed
• How leaders can design work that creates energy, not burnout
• Why “fun” at work is about experience, not perks
• Why stress undermines creativity and long-term performance
• How small, everyday moments shape culture more than large-scale initiatives

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.

This is Part 2 of our live at the CHRO Association's annual CHRO Summit in Orlando, Florida.

I was honored to be invited to the CHRO Association's annual CHRO Summit that brought together more than 300 CHROs and senior HR leaders for strategic conversations truly shaping the future of work.

With 25 presenters and panelists on the agenda, I was able to sit down and interview seven of those amazing speakers and bring their insights directly to you across these two episodes (EP 186 & EP 187).

In this episode, Part 2 - we’re going to hear from three more incredible leaders:

• Darrell Ford, Vice Chair of the CHRO Association and Executive Vice President and CHRO at UPS
• Rebecca Hinds, PhD, Head of the Work AI Institute and Thought Leadership at Glean, and author of Your Best Meeting Ever
• Kevin Cox, Former CHRO at General Electric and President of LKC Advisory LLC

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Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.