Future of HR

By JP ElliottBusiness Education Self-Improvement Management

Future of HR episodes

August 11“Why Verizon Made Its HR Business Partners a Center of Excellence” Christina Schelling, SVP, Human Resources, Verizon
How can you create an HR Business Partner Center of Excellence?
Why does HR need to shift from owning programs to owning business outcomes?
My guest on this episode is Christina Schelling, SVP, Human Resources, Verizon
During our conversation Christina and I discuss:
Why naming the HRBP group a Center of Excellence gives partners community, shared goals, and focused development.
How the HR business partner role is evolving to be more strategic.
How Verizon defined HRBP success with four shared metrics aligned to their strategy.
Why HRBPs don't need to be experts in everything, and how COE partners make them stronger.
How Verizon partnered with their HR tech vendors co-create innovative AI talent solutions.
Connecting with Christina Schelling
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Episode Sponsor:
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HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
40 min
August 04[Greatest Hits] “The 7 Rules of Power” with Jeffrey Pfeffer, Professor Stanford University and Author of 16 books including the “7 Rules of Power
Why is the single biggest barrier to having power…ourselves?
How can you, as an HR professional step into your power?
My guest on this episode is Jeffrey Pfeffer, Professor of Organizational Behavior at the Graduate School of Business, Stanford University and Author of 16 books including his latest one the “7 Rules of Power”:
During our conversation Jeffrey and I discuss:
Why he believes the single biggest barrier to having power is ourselves
Why it is important that we own and tell our story, not let others tell it for us
Why he believes that being authentic and/or modest is terrible leadership advice Why networking is a super power and how to do it well
Why he believes HR needs to raise the bar and step into their power
His advice on how to deal with difficult leaders in positions of power
Connecting with Jeffrey Pfeffer
Connect with Jeffrey Pfeffer on LinkedIn
Learn more about the Jeffrey’s books, research, podcast and more
Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
33 min
July 28“Data Storytelling: How HR Turns Insight Into Influence” Morgan Depenbusch, Data Storytelling & Influence Expert
How can you turn HR data into insights that drive decisions?
Why do leaders make decisions based on their experience and instinct, not just data?
My guest on this episode is Morgan Depenbusch, Data Storytelling & Influence Expert
During our conversation Morgan and I discuss:
How to tell what data is interesting from what data is decision relevant
Why one reason to say no can beat twenty reasons to say yes
Why you should see yourself as the guide and the leader as the hero
How to surface a leader's real objection before the meeting and name it first
Why AI gives HR more dashboards and signals but not more influence
Connecting with Morgan:
Connect with Morgan Depenbusch on LinkedIn
Learn more about Morgan’s HR Data Storytelling and Influence Playbook
Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
39 min
July 21“Everyone Knows Meetings Suck. Can We Actually Fix Them?” Steven Rogelberg, author of “The Surprising Science of Meetings” and “Glad We Met: The Art & Science of 1:1 Meetings”
How can HR transform meetings into a competitive advantage?
Why is the one-on-one the one meeting that leaders should never cancel?
My guest on this episode is Steven Rogelberg, author of “The Surprising Science of Meetings” and “Glad We Met: The Art & Science of 1:1 Meetings”
During our conversation Steven and I discuss:
Why a world without meetings is worse than a world with them
Why the person who called the meeting is usually the only one who thinks it went well.
Why measurement is the missing piece as engagement surveys almost never ask about meetings.
Why framing your agenda as questions to be answered clarifies who to invite, what success looks like, and whether you even need to meet.
Why the one-on-one belongs to the employee, not the manager
Connecting with Steven Rogelberg:
Connect with Steven Rogelberg on LinkedIn
Learn more about Steven, his books, and work to make meetings matter
Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
49 min
July 14“What Private Equity Knows About Talent That Most Companies Miss”, David Cohen, Partner, Human Capital at Kelso
How does human capital create value in private equity?
What does it take to be a successful HR leader in private equity?
My guest on this episode is David Cohen, Partner, Human Capital at Kelso
During our conversation David and I discuss:
Why the role of the human capital partner in private equity is to unlock value through people, not to run HR for the firm itself.
What is takes to be successful as a CHRO in a private equity backed company.
Why human capital value creation comes down to org design, the right people in the right seats, and senior team performance.
How the "bullseye" model helps identify the right senior leader for a PE-backed company.
Why breadth of experience matters more than titles in your 20s and 30s.
Connecting with David Cohen:
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Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
38 min
July 07The Next Evolution of HR: From Business Partner to Business Builder, JP Elliott, Founder, Future of HR
In this solo episode, I make the case that being a strategic business partner is no longer enough. I share the shift I believe is coming next, from business partner to business builder, and the three mindset shifts and behaviors that separate the two.
Here are a few key takeaways from the episode:
Why being a strategic business partner is no longer enough, and what the next evolution of HR asks of us.
How the move from business partner to business builder is a mindset, not a job title.
Why execution excellence has become the price of admission rather than the proof that HR is strategic and adding value.
Why the real AI risk to HR is being bypassed, not being automated.
Why making fewer, bigger bets turns HR priorities into business priorities.
How choosing one big goal a year that scares you can change the course of your career.
19 min
June 30[Greatest Hits] “What Works: Organizational Design” with Amy Kates, Organization Design Expert, Consultant, Educator, and Author
Why is organizational design much more than org charts and who reports to whom?
How can HR guide, facilitate and drive effective an organizational design process?
My guest on this episode is Amy Kates who is organizational design expert and author of five books on the subject.
During our conversation Amy and I discuss:
Why the purpose of organizational design is to design human behavior at scale
Why matrix organizations are set up for good conflict and how best to manage it
The six business problems that leaders seek to solve through organizational design
Why organizational design is not about org charts and who reports to whom
The role that HR leaders should play and not play in the organizational design process.
Advice for HR leaders who are about to start an organizational design project
Connecting with Amy Kates:
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Learn more about Amy’s work at Operating Model & Organization Design LinkedIn page
Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
52 min
June 22How Workforce Readiness Becomes Mission Readiness with Kathleen McCarthy, EVP and Chief Human Resources Officer, SAIC
How can workforce readiness become mission readiness?
Why is a people strategy not the same thing as a business strategy?
My guest on this episode is Kathleen McCarthy, EVP and Chief Human Resources Officer, SAIC
During our conversation Kathleen and I discuss the following:
Why a people strategy is not a business strategy
Why "progress over perfection" beats waiting for the perfect plan
How CHROs are shifting from business partners to enterprise capability builders
Why workforce readiness is a moving target, not a fixed destination
Why you can't hire your way out of the readiness gap
Connecting with Kathleen:
Connect with Kathleen on LinkedIn
Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
32 min
June 16“Speak With Frameworks: How HR Leaders Win the Room” with Vicky Zhao, Founder, School of Human Intellect and Speaking With Frameworks
How can you think and communicate like an executive?
Why is your strategy only as good as your ability to communicate it?
My guest on this episode is Vicky Zhao, Founder, School of Human Intellect and Speaking With Frameworks.
During our conversation Vicky and I discuss the following:
Why the clearest idea, not the best idea, is the one that wins
How the GPS framework (Goal, Problem, Solution) elevates your point of view
Why the hardest shift is moving from a doer mindset to a leader mindset
Why you should put the bottom line up front, using the pyramid principle
Why giving yourself permission to contribute is the first step to showing up like an executive
Connecting with Vicky:
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Subscribe to Vicky’s YouTube channel
Learn more about Vicky’s course, Speaking With Frameworks

Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
38 min
June 09“Data Inspired: How Data Can Drive Change” with Sebastian Wernicke, author of “Data Inspired”
How can HR use data to drive change?
Why is being “data driven” no longer a nice to have, but rather an expectation for HR leaders
My guest on this episode is Sebastian Wernicke, author of “Data Inspired”
During our conversation Sebastian and I discuss the following:
How the best data work starts by trying to prove yourself wrong
Why HR leaders must become critical consumers of data
How to start with the business problem, not the available data
Why data-inspired organizations rest on three foundations: data literacy, a digital mindset, and a data culture
Connecting with Sebastian:
Connect with Sebastian on LinkedIn
Learn more about Sebastian’s new book, Data Inspired

Episode Sponsor:
Next-Gen HR Accelerator - Learn more about this best-in-class leadership development program for next-gen HR leaders
HR Leader’s Blueprint - 18 pages of real-world advice from 100+ HR thought leaders. Simple, actionable, and proven strategies to advance your career.
Succession Planning Playbook: In this focused 1-page resource, I cut through the noise to give you the vital elements that define what “great” succession planning looks like.
45 min

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The Future of HR is the only podcast whose mission is to inspire the next generation of HR Leaders. In each episode, JP Elliott interviews successful HR executives and thought leaders who share…