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Kasara Weinrich, Director of Sales Technology and AI Solutions Designer at ADP, joins us this week to discuss how organizations weigh generative AI adoption. As a PhD candidate in anthropology and social change, Kasara offers a unique historical perspective on how workers have adapted to technological disruption. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Kasara!
• Today’s Topic: The Anthropology of Generative AI in the Workplace

[5:47] What’s wrong with the world of work today?

• Historical patterns of AI innovation and adoption
• The impact of end-user involvement in generative AI development

[18:46] What are the implications of unregulated use of people data by generative AI?

• The importance of partnering with established global organizations
• Leveraging emerging technologies with a goal and strategy

[28:07] How does an organization prepare for generative AI adoption?

• Aligning expectations and involvement between leadership and employees
• Technology adoption beyond workforce reduction

[38:46] Closing

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“For certain work, generative AI can [augment and automate tasks] while bringing the human skills to the top, but only if it’s done strategically and not just because it can be done.”

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Siri Chilazi, Senior Researcher for the Women and Public Policy Program at Harvard Kennedy School, joins us this episode to discuss identifying and implementing solutions that make the workplace fair for everyone. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Siri!
• Today’s Topic: Making Workplaces Fair by Design

[5:38] The new paradigm of workplace fairness

• Shifting behavior without shifting mindset
• Practical frameworks for measuring and advancing workplace fairness

[18:26] How do we change processes to drive equity

• Recruitment process modifications that significantly improve interview candidates
• Skills-based hiring and how to implement it effectively

[29:29] How do we improve the data that drive fairness?

• A case study in fairness from the BBC
• Creating meaningful collaboration between data teams and employees

[35:14] Closing

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Quick Quote

“Fairness [at work] is not a program but a way of doing things.”

Resources
Make Work Fair book
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Peter Laughter, speaker and experienced recruiting/staffing entrepreneur, joins us this episode to discuss why he believes recruitment is broken and how he views the future of HR as a result.

[0:00] Introduction
•Welcome, Peter!
•Today’s Topic: Recruitment is Broken—How Can We Fix It?

[1:59] Peter journey in recruiting and staffing
•Lessons learned from working for a small staffing firm
•The commoditization of recruitment and staffing services

[19:28] Is recruitment broken?
•The connection between engaged employee and customer satisfaction
•How transformative technologies will fundamentally change organizations

[31:55] How Peter’s experience has framed his view of the future of HR
•Will HR be viewed as a resource as opposed to a cost center?
•The critical impact adaptive leadership can have on an organization’s HR team

[40:11] Closing
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Quick Quote
“How can our organizations be effective if HR is viewed as a cost center as opposed to a resource?”

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Chris McAlister, founder of SightShift and renowned leadership coach, explores the crucial difference between leading for validation versus leading for genuine impact.

[0:00] Introduction
•Welcome, Chris!
•Today’s Topic: Leading for Impact, Not Validation

[5:13] The problem with leadership today
•How the quest for validation undermines effective leadership
•Focusing on the organization’s needs and not personal wishes

[12:55] How do leaders overcome their insecurities?
•Measuring and managing insecurities
•How toxic workplace cultures challenge leaders

[24:57] What can HR practitioners can support leadership development
•Focusing on positive growth over risk management
•Why traditional leadership training often falls short

[33:28] Closing
•Try this: Identify the last time you had a moment of insecurity in the workplace
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Quick Quote
“[HR leaders] are not here just to protect the organization from harm, . . . [they’re] also here for how good it can get.”

Resources
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Lead For Impact: Why Mindfulness, Empathy, and Psychological Safety Don’t Make Great Leaders

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In this very special episode, we bring together Salary.com’s top compensation experts for a fascinating roundtable discussion. Featuring insights from our senior consultants Courtney LeCompte (Director of Consulting Sales), Eric McMillan (VP of Compensation Consulting), Garry Straker (VP of Compensation Consulting), Angela Bailey (VP of Compensation Consulting), Greg Wolf (Managing Principal), and hosted by Dwight Brown (VP of Compensation Consulting) and David Turetsky (VP of Consulting), we dive into our reflections on 2024 and our predictions for the future of HR in 2025. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Salary.com Senior Consulting Team!
• Today’s Topic: HR Experts Predict the Future of HR in 2025

[9:29] Reviewing our predictions for 2024

• Did mental health and wellness benefits reshape traditional compensation packages?
• Did remote work strategies challenge both organizations and employees?
• Did salaries increase by less than 4%?
• Was career development a key focus, with organizations creating clearer progression pathways?
• Did recruitment and retention pay incentives stabilize?
• Did recessionary pressures drive strategic workforce decisions?

[19:04] Predictions for 2025

• States will introduce legislation to help the struggling healthcare industry
• Workplace civility will become a priority amid the polarizing political landscape
• DEI initiative rollbacks will create workplace tensions
• Employees will grow increasingly interested in returning to the office
• Pay equity and transparency obligations will prove critical for organizations
• Organizations will push “return to office” plans
• AI will not cause a major shift in how HR does its work, yet…

[42:44] Final thoughts

• How 2024 set the stage for larger-scale AI adoption
• Why 2025 might be a year of continued uncertainty

[45:46] Closing

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Quick Quote

“California was first out of the gate with this, but I anticipate us at least seeing [healthcare minimum wage] legislation introduced in other states.”

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As Season 8 of HR Data Labs comes to a close, David Turetsky and Dwight Brown reflect on the season’s episodes, guests, and key topics. They also revisit their predictions from the Season 7 finale and posit some new predictions for the future of HR.

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, David and Dwight!
• Today’s Topic: Season 8 Recap

[6:01] Looking back at Season 8’s major topics and themes

• AI’s ubiquity across industries
• Normalizing discussion about emotional intelligence and employee wellbeing

[18:09] Reviewing predictions made in the Season 7 finale

• Did companies see pushback related to survey fatigue?
• Did more companies adopt pay transparency as a standard?

[25:57] David and Dwight’s predictions for what the next six months will bring for HR

• AI will continue to impact customer service but will result in workforce re-skilling instead of workforce reduction
• Companies will maintain DEI cultures despite potential challenges to regulations

[33:07] Closing

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“With the implementation of AI, what people don’t realize is: you need significant resources for the care and feeding of that AI.”

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Bennett Sung, Strategic Marketing Advisor at Restworld and Fractional CMO at MeBeBot, joins us in this episode to explore AI’s current and future role in HR. He talks about where AI best fits within existing HR tech stacks and shares exciting prospects for AI implementation, while also considering how pay transparency is transforming recruitment strategies.

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Bennett!
• Today’s Topic: Exciting Prospects for AI Implementation

[7:36] How will AI fit into existing HR technology stacks?

• HR’s evolving relationship with finance may include learning to “follow the money”
• The increasing intersection of HR and IT through new data governance requirements

[15:51] Will pay transparency be a game changer for recruitment?

• Leveraging total compensation statements as strategic recruitment tools

[21:31] Will 2025 be a breakthrough year for AI in HR?

• Financial investment enabling HR to “do more with less” through AI
• The importance of succession planning as baby boomers exit the workforce
• The emerging potential of AI agents

[39:45] Closing

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“Following the money is important for HR to master . . . to build business cases for the long term.”

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Chris Havrilla, Vice President of HCM Product Management at Oracle, joins us in this episode to discuss the hurdles organizations face (or merely think they face) when looking to integrate new technologies into their workflows. She also explores how organizations can benefit from learning to work with AI.

[0:00] Introduction
•Welcome, Chris!
•Today’s Topic: How to Reduce Technological Adoption Barriers in Organizations

[4:34] How has HR evolved in the last few years?
•HR is finally in a place where technology can work for it
•The root causes of HR teams’ reluctance to adopt new technologies

[16:06] How can organizations reduce technological adoption barriers?
•Reframing new technology as a strategic “team member” rather than a threat
•Mitigating fear, uncertainty, and doubt surrounding AI implementation

[29:11] How can organizations practically integrate AI?
•Shifting the conversation from “Will AI replace me?” To “How can AI help me work more efficiently?”
•Why quality assurance remains essential in AI-assisted workflows

[34:09] Closing
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“I think the thing that is really messing people up is the notion of transformation [when adopting new HR technologies] . . . but if you can show people how to take baby steps, the momentum builds pretty quickly.”

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Jack Coapman, Chief Strategy Officer at GR8 People, joins us in this episode to discuss the evolution of recruitment and its relationship to compensation. He explores the pros and cons of emerging technologies and emphasizes that successful recruitment still fundamentally depends on people and processes.

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Jack!
• Today’s Topic: Why People and Process Drive Recruitment Success

[4:18] How is the relationship between recruitment and compensation evolving?

• How pay transparency regulations are forcing the issue in recruitment conversations
• Why organizations benefit from posting compensation ranges in job postings even if they aren’t required to

[15:10] How has recruitment technology and processes evolved?

• The fundamentals of improving recruitment remain constant, with or without AI
• The limitations of technological solutions in addressing fundamental recruitment issues

[24:26] Was Jack shocked by anything he saw at HR Tech 2024?

• Technology means nothing to an organization if it can’t be tied to its people and processes
• The importance of properly implementing and maintaining new technologies

[34:18] Closing

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“You don’t want to get days, weeks, months into a screening process with somebody only to find at the end that you’re never going to be able to align the dots when it comes to [the compensation] that candidate is seeking and what the organization wants to pay.”

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Sapient Insights Group is the research and advisory firm that organizes the annual HR technology survey which seeks to shed light on HR professionals’ relationships with existing and emerging technologies. In this episode, Stacey Harris (Chief Research Officer & Managing Partner) and Teri Zipper (CEO & Managing Partner) join us to discuss HR’s technical revolution and how it has been affecting compensation. 

This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas. 

[0:00] Introduction

• Welcome, Stacey Harris and Teri Zipper of Sapient Insights Group!
• Today’s Topic: Compensation and the Evolving Workplace

[5:28] How has HR’s landscape changed (besides AI)?

• AI’s role in making information more accessible
• Younger generations and evolving workplace dynamics

[12:44] HR’s technology paradox

• Rapid evolution in HR technology outpaces many organizations’ awareness
• Why emerging technologies enhance rather than eliminate human roles

[20:33] How important is compensation in the modern HR ecosystem?

• Skill-based pay as a potential driver for pay equity
• Innovative compensation models to motivate and retain talent

[32:32] Closing

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“[Compensation] shows up in places we often forget inside the whole HR model—it’s part of your time and attendance . . . that’s a really important issues for those people who depend on it.”

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