Welcome to this special series of the Weekend Briefing, where Jamila talks to some of her favourite guests - old and new - about a single, fascinating subject.

Over the next two months, you’ll hear from singers, writers, models, actors and change makers on topics as diverse as the interview subject themselves.

Today you’ll hear from Hugh van Cuylenburg on resilience. You might recognise Hugh’s voice from the very successful podcast the Imperfects co hosted by Ryan Shelton, and his brother Josh van Cuylenburg.

In this chat with Jamila Rizvi, Hugh explains what resilience looks like in the modern day and questions how we become resilient.

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