Welcoming Jess McClain to the show! Jess is a pro runner for Brooks, and she made big waves last year when she came in fourth in both the Olympic Marathon Trials and the 10K at the Olympic Track and Field Trials. In this week's episode, she talks so beautifully about rediscovering the fun in running by involving herself in other activities and pursuits. Jess shares what it’s like to work full-time for a non-profit while also following her passions within sport, and she gives some really beautiful advice on the importance of listening to your body.

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(8:00) How pressure got the best of Jess early in her career.

(10:13) Jess reflects on her 20+ years of running.

(12:50) How Jess finds the joy on the days that don’t feel so exciting and easy.

(14:55) Jess talks about walking away from professional running for a bit during the pandemic. 

(18:00) How Jess found the fun in running again.

(20:18) Jess shares what it was like to run her first marathon.

(24:09) Jess talks about her new coach David Roche.

(39:15) What changed for Jess McClain in 2023 that unlocked her potential in 2024.

(42:47) How Jess felt about coming in fourth at the Marathon Olympic Trials.

(44:30) How Jess re-imagined her relationship with failure.

(50:10) How Jess felt about flying to the Olympics in Paris as an alternate and not racing.

(55:49) What Jess sees when she looks in the mirror.

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Jessie Diggins knows that perfection isn’t reality. But as the most decorated cross country skier in U.S. history, her record’s pretty close. In this week’s episode of Hurdle, Emily sits down with the 3-time Olympic medalist to talk about her journey to the top of her sport, what it’s like to embrace the pressure of competition and push close to her physical breaking point (blurry vision and all). She also gets candid about her experience with an eating disorder, including a relapse in 2024, and what support looks like for her in her day to day. Plus: How she feels with under a year left until the Winter Olympics, and what it’s like training regularly in Italy leading up to World Championships after her recent World Cup win.

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The starting line is right in front of you, but are you standing in your own way? Talking about how this regularly plays out, and answering a listener question about how to nail a pull-up (or three).

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The way that you talk to yourself (and treat yourself) is important; as you've likely heard before — self-love isn't selfish. Put this one in the love file: Finishing off a couple weeks of loving here on Hurdle with Dr. Nina Polyné, a licensed clinical psychologist. We cover:

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How To Love Better: On Finding Grace, Healing & Motivation In Your Relationships With Diego 'Yung Pueblo' Perez

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It's not lame to answer this question, btw. I love Valentine's Day, and not because I'm in love with someone else. Talking about what this day looks like for me, and answering a listener question about navigating rest days.

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With Valentine's Day on the horizon, the podcast this week is shifting to talk about love. Self-love, loving others, and all type of relationships. Love is the foundation that shapes our perspective, and regardless of your marital status — love can impact all aspects of your health and wellbeing.

Chatting on this today withThe New York Timesbestselling author Diego Perez, known to his 4+ million followers by the name Yung Pueblo. Diego shares with me the lessons he's learned within his marriage, highlights the red and green flags of dating, and his takeaways from writing his new book — out next month,How to Love Better.

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(7:50) Diego Perez talks about the importance of not postponing your own happiness because you’re waiting for a partner

(13:15) How to grow together within a relationship, while pursuing different paths for personal growth

(17:44) How to train and develop happiness

(18:30) Diego Perez talks about how to fight against the victim mindset

(20:14) How to set yourself up for tiny victories to achieve momentum

(24:12) When to apologize versus when to address a lack of communication within a relationship

(24:52) What's an emotional temperature check?

(34:50) How to navigate change and growth of the individual within the relationship

(42:30) How to figure out when friendships are working for you versus hurting you

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I did something earlier this week that made me really proud. Plus: Asking a favor of all of you, and answering a listener question about how to spend time on your own when it feels mega uncomfortable.

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Imagine being referred to as "The Fittest Woman On Earth" — that's Laura Horvath's reality. The 2023 champion of the CrossFit Games joins Hurdle this week for a conversation about strength, body image, and nutrition. She covers how she trains to embrace the different phases of her cycle, what has changed (or rather, what hasn't) since she came out on top, and why her early days of climbing lent themselves to excelling within sport when her brother introduced her to it in 2016.

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(6:00) Why Laura loved climbing

(7:00) The perks to being strong for Laura in her everyday life

(8:15) How climbing lended itself to a transition into CrossFit

(9:50) Laura Horvath's thoughts on the intimidation factor that comes with lifting heavy weights

(12:55) Laura Horvath reflects on her beginning days with the sport, and how taking on too much too soon contributed to injury

(14:50) How Laura Horvath prioritizes her sleep, and why she likes wearing the Oura Ring

(15:07) The recovery tools Laura Horvath uses most often

(18:00) Laura Horvath talks about her cycle and how pays attention to it and her period to train to her advantage

(19:08) What does balance look like for Laura Horvath

(27:00) How Laura Horvath looks as food as fuel

(27:43) Laura Horvath talks about her relationship with food and how it's evolved since she was climbing, when the assumption that was less better

(33:40) How Laura Horvath feels about her social media presence

(36:30) What changed in Laura Horvath's life after winning the CrossFit Games

(39:19) How Laura Horvath feels about the pressure to perform in sport

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I've spoken about my one-new-thing-a-week experiment here before, but this week I'm reflecting on just how fortunate we are to take the reigns on our own joy. Plus: Answering a listener question on how to establish a nighttime routine — and what mine consists of.

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