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How will AI, cryptocurrency and the next generation of investors reshape the future of finance? Charles Schwab CEO Rick Wurster joins Peter Mallouk to discuss the biggest trends transforming investing, wealth management and financial services. 

Rick shares why convenience has become one of the most powerful forces in investing, how younger investors are changing the industry, how Charles Schwab is approaching Bitcoin, Ethereum, stablecoins and blockchain technology, and why AI will enhance financial advisors instead of replacing them. He also explains digital assets, the future of prediction markets and the innovations Schwab is making to help millions of investors build better financial futures. 

Whether you are an investor, a financial advisor, an entrepreneur or simply curious about where money and technology are heading, this conversation offers practical insights from the CEO of one of the world's largest financial services firms. 

What You'll Learn in This Episode 

✅ Why AI will transform investing and financial advice without replacing human advisors 

✅ Charles Schwab's strategy for Bitcoin, Ethereum, stablecoins and digital assets 

✅ How Gen Z investors are changing investing, wealth management and financial markets 

✅ Why convenience, innovation and client-first thinking are shaping the future of financial services 

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Timestamps 

• (00:00) Crypto, AI, and the shifts impacting how we invest
• (00:44) Leading Schwab and putting clients first
• (02:21) Four trends reshaping investing
• (05:34) Prediction markets explained
• (08:22) Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Schwab’s crypto strategy
• (11:30) Why Schwab raised advisor referral minimums
• (15:33) How Charles Schwab became an industry leader
• (18:04) Blockchain, stablecoins, and the future of money
• (19:36) Why Gen Z is changing investing
• (22:00) AI, financial advisors, and the future of wealth management
• (25:57) What’s next for Charles Schwab

Key Takeaways 

🔹 AI will make financial advice more efficient, but trust, relationships and human judgment will remain essential. 

🔹 Digital assets are becoming an important part of the investing landscape, even as their long-term future remains uncertain. 

🔹 Younger investors are entering the markets earlier than ever, driving innovation across financial services. 

🔹 Firms that simplify investing while putting clients first will continue to lead the future of wealth management. 

About Rick Wurster 

Rick Wurster is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Charles Schwab, one of the world's largest financial services firms, serving more than 30 million client accounts. Since becoming CEO, he has focused on expanding innovation, improving the client experience, embracing artificial intelligence and preparing Schwab for the future of digital assets, wealth management and financial advice. Before becoming CEO, Rick held numerous leadership roles across Schwab's investment, trading and wealth management businesses. 

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How will artificial intelligence reshape investing, software, careers and the global economy? Vista Equity Partners Founder Robert F. Smith joins Peter Mallouk for a masterclass on AI, enterprise software, private equity and the future of business. 

As one of the world's leading technology investors, Robert explains why AI is creating the biggest transformation since the internet, how enterprise software companies will evolve, what investors are getting wrong about AI and the skills professionals need to thrive in a rapidly changing economy. 

Whether you are an investor, an entrepreneur, a business leader or simply trying to understand what's next, this episode delivers practical insights into where technology, capital and innovation are heading. 

What You'll Learn in This Episode 

✅ Why AI is transforming enterprise software, investing and business faster than ever before 

✅ How private equity firms evaluate technology companies in the age of artificial intelligence 

✅ The skills professionals need to stay valuable as AI changes the workforce 

✅ Why innovation, discipline and continuous learning are essential for long-term success 

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Timestamps 

• (00:00) Investing and the biggest tech shift since the internet 
• (01:26) From engineer to Founder of Vista Equity Partners 
• (06:08) The biggest AI trends shaping business today 
• (11:11) Why enterprise software isn't disappearing 
• (19:00) How AI will change jobs and careers 
• (24:56) Investing through technological disruption 
• (33:26) AI, market volatility and the future of investing 
• (39:23) The Morehouse College graduation gift that inspired millions 
• (42:22) Philanthropy, optimism and creating lasting impact 

Key Takeaways 

🔹 Enterprise software will evolve through AI rather than disappear, creating entirely new growth opportunities. 

🔹 Professionals who learn to work alongside AI will have a significant advantage over those who resist it. 

🔹 Successful investing requires adapting to technological change while maintaining disciplined, long-term thinking. 

🔹 Optimism, continuous learning and intentional action remain some of the greatest competitive advantages in any career. 

About Robert F. Smith 

Robert F. Smith is the Founder, Chairman and CEO of Vista Equity Partners, one of the world's leading private equity firms focused exclusively on enterprise software, data and technology-enabled businesses. Widely recognized as one of the most influential investors in technology, Smith has helped transform hundreds of software companies while becoming a leading voice on artificial intelligence, innovation, business transformation and philanthropy. He is also known for paying off the student debt of the graduating class at Morehouse College, inspiring millions around the world. 

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What separates extraordinary people from everyone else? Tony Robbins joins Peter Mallouk for a powerful conversation about mindset, emotional mastery, wealth, philanthropy, leadership, investing, AI and creating a life of lasting impact. 

Tony shares the life-changing experiences that shaped his mission, why emotions drive every decision we make, the beliefs that hold people back, and the strategies used by world-class investors and entrepreneurs. From building businesses and giving back to navigating artificial intelligence and preparing for the future, this episode is packed with practical wisdom for anyone looking to create more success, fulfillment and purpose. 

What You'll Learn in This Episode 

✅ Why your beliefs, emotions and identity determine your success more than talent 

✅ The investing principles Tony learned from Ray Dalio, Jack Bogle, Paul Tudor Jones and other financial legends 

✅ How AI will reshape careers, business and the future of work 

✅ The daily mindset shifts that create lasting happiness, wealth and fulfillment 

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Timestamps 

• (00:00) Success, money, AI and the mindset that changes everything 
• (03:26) Childhood adversity and the beliefs that shaped Tony’s life 
• (12:19) The mindset that transforms success and happiness 
• (20:35) Why emotion drives every financial decision 
• (23:22) Lessons from the world's greatest investors 
• (44:28) AI, the future of work and staying relevant 
• (54:34) The questions that shape your life 
• (01:03:26) Stanford research on Tony's methods 

(01:10:03) The Time to Rise Summit and creating lasting change 

Key Takeaways 

🔹 Your identity and beliefs influence every decision more than your circumstances. 

🔹 Long-term wealth comes from smart asset allocation, disciplined investing and continuous learning. 

🔹 AI won't simply replace jobs. People who learn to use AI will outperform those who ignore it. 

🔹 Lasting fulfillment comes from contribution, gratitude, growth and creating value for others. 

About Tony Robbins 

Tony Robbins is a world-renowned entrepreneur, bestselling author, philanthropist, business strategist and peak performance expert. Over the past four decades, he has coached presidents, professional athletes, Fortune 500 executives, entrepreneurs, investors, entertainers and millions of people worldwide. Through his books, seminars and businesses, Tony has helped individuals improve their finances, health, relationships, leadership and personal growth while also providing billions of meals through his philanthropic initiatives. 

Website: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/

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Can happiness actually make you more successful? Bestselling author and happiness researcher Shawn Achor joins Peter Mallouk to reveal why happiness isn't the result of success but rather one of its greatest drivers. Backed by decades of research, Shawn explains how gratitude, meaningful relationships, purpose and simple daily habits can improve your mental health, increase resilience, strengthen leadership and even help you live longer. 

From overcoming depression and burnout to building stronger relationships, finding purpose and creating lasting happiness, this conversation offers practical strategies anyone can apply immediately to improve both life and work. 

What You'll Learn in This Episode 

✅ Why happiness fuels success instead of following it 

✅ The daily habits that improve mental health, resilience and well-being 

✅ How gratitude, purpose and meaningful relationships transform your life 

✅ Practical ways to overcome burnout, loneliness, anxiety and negative thinking 

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 Timestamps 

• (00:00) Happiness, success, and what really matters
• (02:22) Faith, purpose, and the science of happiness
• (10:29) The #1 predictor of happiness and success
• (22:00) Why gratitude changes your brain
• (29:44) Shawn’s journey through depression
• (33:36) The daily habits that build lasting happiness
• (37:59) The biggest myths about success and happiness
• (48:45) Why anxiety, loneliness, and depression are rising
• (53:34) Can society become happier?

Key Takeaways 

🔹 Strong social connections are the single greatest predictor of long-term happiness and well-being. 

🔹 Gratitude is a daily practice that reshapes how your brain experiences the world. 

🔹 Happiness improves performance, decision-making, leadership, health and resilience. 

🔹 Small, consistent habits repeated over time create meaningful and lasting positive change. 

About Shawn Achor 

Shawn Achor is a bestselling author, a speaker and one of the world's leading researchers on positive psychology and happiness. His work has been featured globally for demonstrating how optimism, gratitude, purpose and social connection improve performance, leadership, mental health and long-term success. Through decades of research, Shawn has helped organizations, schools, healthcare systems and business leaders build happier and more resilient lives. 

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What does the future hold for stocks, inflation, interest rates and the U.S. economy? Legendary economist Jeremy Siegel, author of “Stocks for the Long Run,” joins Peter Mallouk to explain why long-term investing continues to outperform, what today's investors misunderstand about inflation and why cybersecurity may be a bigger threat than government debt. 

From the lasting impact of COVID-era stimulus and rising deficits to AI, tariffs, Bitcoin, private markets and America's economic future, this conversation delivers timeless investing principles backed by decades of research. 

Whether you are a new investor, a financial professional or a business owner or simply trying to build long-term wealth. This episode offers practical insights to help you think beyond today's headlines and invest with confidence. 

What You'll Learn in This Episode 

✅ Why stocks remain the best long-term investment despite short-term volatility 

✅ How inflation, interest rates and government spending impact your portfolio 

✅ Jeremy Siegel's outlook on AI, Bitcoin, tariffs, private markets and the U.S. economy 

✅ Why cybersecurity may be the biggest financial risk facing America 

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Timestamps 

• 00:00 Inflation, tariffs and America's future 
• 02:09 Why “Stocks for the Long Run” became an investing classic 
• 06:21 Inflation, bonds and lessons from COVID 
• 15:39 Government debt and the bond market outlook 
• 21:10 The biggest threats to America's economy 
• 27:11 Tariffs, trade and Trump's economic policies 
• 35:00 Bitcoin, banking and the future of money 
• 39:22 Private markets, innovation and America's future 

Key Takeaways 

🔹 Long-term investors benefit from owning productive businesses instead of trying to predict short-term market movements. 

🔹 Inflation creates challenges for bonds, but quality businesses have historically provided better long-term protection. 

🔹 AI has the potential to improve productivity and strengthen economic growth over time. 

🔹 Innovation, entrepreneurship and free markets remain some of America's greatest long-term competitive advantages. 

About Jeremy Siegel 

Jeremy Siegel is one of the world's leading economists and investment experts. A longtime professor at the Wharton School, he taught for nearly five decades and has educated thousands of investors and finance professionals. He is the bestselling author of “Stocks for the Long Run,” widely considered one of the most influential investing books ever written. Throughout his career, Siegel has become a trusted voice on stock markets, inflation, interest rates, monetary policy and long-term investing. 

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How do you navigate a world shaped by war, geopolitical tension and rapid technological change? General David Petraeus shares his perspective on the biggest global challenges facing leaders, investors and governments today, from Ukraine and the Middle East to China, artificial intelligence and the future of American leadership. 

In this conversation with Peter Mallouk, General Petraeus draws on decades of military, intelligence and global leadership experience to explain how today's geopolitical landscape differs from any point since the Cold War. He discusses the wars in Ukraine and Gaza, China's growing influence, the evolution of modern warfare through drones and AI, and why productivity and innovation remain America's greatest competitive advantages. 

What You'll Learn 

✅ How geopolitical conflicts are reshaping global markets and investment decisions 

✅ Why AI, drones and innovation are transforming the future of warfare and business 

✅ General Petraeus's outlook on Ukraine, the Middle East, China and global stability 

✅ Why productivity, leadership and American innovation remain critical to long-term economic growth 

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Timestamps 

• (00:00) Strategy in an unstable world
• (00:42) The new era of global geopolitics
• (06:06) Ukraine’s future and Russia
• (13:44) Drones and the future of warfare
• (19:07) The Middle East and Israel
• (30:49) From the CIA to Syria
• (36:27) Why China matters most
• (44:26) The biggest global risks
• (47:38) AI, innovation, and productivity
• (55:13) The case for never betting against America

Key Takeaways 

🔹 Global investing increasingly requires understanding geopolitics alongside economics. 

🔹 Artificial intelligence and autonomous systems are reshaping warfare, productivity and global competitiveness. 

🔹 Long-term success depends on adapting to rapid geopolitical and technological change. 

🔹 America's greatest advantage continues to be innovation, entrepreneurship and its ability to attract exceptional talent. 

About the Guest 

General David Petraeus is a retired four-star U.S. Army General, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Partner at KKR, where he leads the firm's Global Institute. Throughout his distinguished military career, he commanded coalition forces during the Iraq Surge and in Afghanistan, helping shape modern counterinsurgency strategy and U.S. military doctrine. 

Today, General Petraeus advises global businesses, investors and policymakers on geopolitical risk, international security, economic trends and global investment strategy. His work at KKR focuses on helping companies and investors understand how geopolitical developments affect markets, supply chains and long-term investment opportunities. 

Recognized as one of the world's leading experts on national security and global affairs, General Petraeus frequently speaks on leadership, innovation, artificial intelligence, international relations and the evolving geopolitical landscape shaping the future of business and investing. 

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What is private credit, and why are the world's largest investors moving billions into it? 

Apollo CEO Marc Rowan joins Peter Mallouk for an in-depth conversation on one of the fastest-growing areas in investing. From private credit and private markets to portfolio diversification and long-term wealth creation, Marc explains why the investment landscape is changing and what it means for individual investors. 

Marc shares why higher interest rates have made private credit more attractive, how private markets are evolving alongside public markets and why diversification, origination and disciplined investing matter more than ever. He also discusses the future of retirement investing, the growing role of financial advisors and how technology is reshaping access to private investments. 

What You'll Learn 

✅ What private credit is and why it's becoming one of the fastest-growing investment opportunities 

✅ How private markets are changing portfolio diversification and long-term investing 

✅ Why higher interest rates have reshaped the investment landscape 

✅ Marc Rowan's outlook on retirement investing, financial advice and the future of private markets 

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Timestamps 

• (00:00) Private credit, wealth creation, and the future of investing
• (01:28) Why investors are moving into private credit
• (06:30) Private vs. public markets
• (11:25) Why private markets keep growing
• (16:44) Liquidity and investment returns
• (22:28) The future of private investing
• (28:50) What happens during the next bear market?
• (31:18) Is private credit really “shadow banking”?
• (35:29) The future of 401(k) investing
• (38:44) Leadership, culture, and building Apollo

Key Takeaways 

🔹 Private credit has evolved into one of the fastest-growing asset classes, offering investors new opportunities for diversification and income. 

🔹 Successful investing isn't about choosing between public or private markets. It's about building a portfolio that uses both strategically. 

🔹 Long-term investment success comes from disciplined underwriting, thoughtful risk management and buying quality assets at the right price. 

🔹 As financial markets continue to evolve, access to private investments and professional advice will play an increasingly important role in building wealth. 

About the Guest 

Marc Rowan is the Chief Executive Officer of Apollo Global Management, one of the world's largest alternative asset managers and a global leader in private credit, private equity, infrastructure and real assets. Since co-founding Apollo in 1990, Marc has helped grow the firm into one of the most influential investment organizations in the world, managing hundreds of billions of dollars on behalf of institutional and individual investors. 

Widely recognized as one of the leading voices in private markets, Marc has been instrumental in expanding access to private credit and developing innovative investment solutions for retirement plans, financial advisors and institutions. His expertise spans capital markets, corporate finance, risk management and long-term investing. 

Beyond Apollo, Marc is actively involved in education, philanthropy and public policy initiatives and widely respected for his thoughtful perspective on financial markets, economic growth and the future of investing. 

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What can losing $100 million teach you about building the world's largest asset manager? Larry Fink shares the investing mindset, leadership lessons and risk management principles that transformed one of Wall Street's biggest setbacks into the foundation of BlackRock. 

In this conversation with Peter Mallouk, Larry reflects on his journey from The First Boston Corporation to co-founding BlackRock, explaining why understanding risk is more important than chasing returns. He discusses the power of long-term investing, why owning real assets builds wealth and how entrepreneurs can turn failure into opportunity. 

What You'll Learn 

✅ How a $100 million loss became the foundation for building BlackRock 

✅ Why owning assets instead of simply saving money creates long-term wealth 

✅ Larry Fink's outlook on Bitcoin, AI and the future of investing 

✅ Leadership lessons on risk management, resilience and building great teams 

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Timestamps 

• (00:00) The investing mindset that built the world’s largest asset manager
• (00:37) Larry Fink’s journey to Wall Street
• (04:10) The $100 million mistake
• (08:25) Building BlackRock from failure
• (12:22) Leadership, optimism, and America
• (15:45) The U.S. debt crisis and investing
• (22:52) Bitcoin and the future of crypto
• (28:10) AI, productivity, and business
• (35:03) Capitalism and leadership
• (41:55) Larry Fink’s legacy

Key Takeaways 

🔹 Failure can become the foundation for long-term success when you learn from it. 

🔹 Wealth is built by owning productive assets, not simply by saving money. 

🔹 Great leadership starts with disciplined risk management and strong teams. 

🔹 Long-term optimism has consistently outperformed short-term fear. 

About the Guest

Larry Fink is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of BlackRock. He and seven partners founded BlackRock in 1988, and under his leadership the firm has grown into a global leader in investment and technology solutions. BlackRock's mission is to help its clients build better financial futures, and the firm is trusted to manage more money than any other investment company in the world. 

Prior to founding BlackRock in 1988, Mr. Fink was a member of the Management Committee and a Managing Director of The First Boston Corporation. 

He serves as Co-Chair of the Board of Trustees of the World Economic Forum and Co-Chair of NYU Langone Medical Center. He also serves on the boards of the Museum of Modern Art and the Aspen Institute and on the Advisory Board of the Tsinghua University School of Economics and Management in Beijing, as well as the Executive Committee of the Partnership for New York City. 

Mr. Fink earned an MBA from the University of California, Los Angeles, (UCLA) in 1976 and a BA from UCLA in 1974. 

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