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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets psychiatrist and trauma pioneer Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, author of the seminal book The Body Keeps the Score. Recorded at Balliol College, Oxford, after he spoke at the Masters Event this wide-ranging conversation explores what trauma really is — beyond war and catastrophe and why connection, safety, and community are at the heart of healing. In this conversation they discuss how trauma lives in the body, how it shapes identity, and why silence and secrecy so often make suffering worse. From those suffering from dissociation, emotional numbness to chronic pain, immune illness, and loss of self, we hope this episode offers both clarity and hope as they explore what helps.

Dr. Bessel van der Kolk is a psychiatrist, researcher, and educator who has spent over five decades studying trauma and its effects on the body and mind. He is the founder of the Trauma Research Foundation and the author of The Body Keeps the Score, one of the most influential books on trauma ever written.

In this Conversation: 

• What trauma actually is and why it’s not defined by the event alone, what is the difference between stress and trauma
• How the body ‘keeps the score’ when the mind tries to move on 
• Why secrecy and shame deepen trauma, and the difference between public trauma and private trauma
• “Trauma is not what happens to you. It’s what happens inside you when you are left alone with what happened.” How trauma shapes identity — especially when it is rooted in childhood
• Why talk therapy alone is often not enough - the healing power of groups and shared experiences
• Loss of self — and why recovery is still possible and why community is the strongest antidote to hopelessness
• “We don’t exist as individuals. We exist as members of a tribe. What to do if you feel alone, disconnected, or “beyond help”

About I’m Fine:

I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell is a safe space and platform where high-performance people talk honestly about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their outward success. Jean has navigated chronic pain since she was 12 years old, this experience inspired her to create I’m Fine to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan.

With Very Special Thanks to:

• Dr. Bessel van der Kolk 
• Natasha SilverBell: CEO SilverBell Global 
• Araminta Jonsson: CEO Book Time with Me, Mint Partnerships
• Technical Production by Copperbeach (social handle @copperbeachuk)

This episode of I’m Fine Series Two is kindly supported by Natasha SilverBell and SilverBell Global https://silverbellglobal.com 

@Natasha SilverBell is the CEO and Founder of SilverBell Global, established in 2012 to provide informed care and attuned presence to individuals and families navigating the complexities of mental health. A thought leader and keynote speaker, Natasha curates dialogues with leading practitioners around mental health, wellbeing, and spirituality. She participated in the first Lord Mayor's Global Family Office Summit at Mansion House, London, is an Ambassador for Partnership to End Addiction, and is the founder of the Megan Anne Foundation

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets Edward Enninful, Co-Founder and Chief Creative Officer @ee72, and Author of his bestselling autobiography ‘A Visible Man’. In this episode they discuss visibility, vision – creative, emotive and physical and the knowledge and understanding of vulnerability. From the fullness of his life career, culture, health and using your voice and platform. 

Edward Enninful OBE is regarded as one of the leading voices in the creative industry working today and has helped bring widespread distinction to global fashion. Edward has a long-standing track record for delivering impactful storytelling and championing diverse and emerging talent within the industry. Born to a Ghanaian army officer and a seamstress, Edward became the youngest ever fashion editor of an international publication, i-D magazine, at 18. Quickly making his mark within the industry, by 1998  he became a contributing fixture at Italian Vogue, catapulting him into world recognition as a leading stylist and cultural contributor and spearheaded “The Black Issue” which featured only black women, and started the necessary dialogue amongst a wider public audience that continues today. Edward continued to use his voice with roles at American Vogue, W Magazine and most recently, British Vogue – becoming the only black person to serve as Editor-in-Chief in Vogue’s history and successfully transforming the publication into a diverse and inclusive multi-platform brand. Edward’s dedication to diversity in fashion was honoured with the presentation of an OBE. Unveiled in February 2025 Enninful is the co-founder and Chief Creative Officer of EE72, his global media and entertainment company.  EE72 develops and produces transformational content, immersive experiences and innovative products that challenge audiences to see the world through new eyes. 

In this Conversation: 

• From growing up in a traditional military family, moving from Ghana to London with his seamstress mother and siblings with two world views to being the youngest ever fashion editor at i-D Magazine. 
• Don’t take anything for granted. From losing almost everything at a young age he vowed never to be scared again. When you escape war, when you have lost everything you appreciate everything and fear nothing. 
• A visual person in a visual world he says “I don't fear many things in my life, but the one thing that I do experience a lot of fear with is my eyes” 
• You can’t be an expert if you don’t do your research. All aspects of your life should inspire you – always be curious. Have dreams – and build them people who will champion you.
• Work hard but equally work hard to take care of yourself. How to sustain health and well-being, make time to switch off as well as on. 

About I’m Fine:

“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast, it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean Campbell. 

•  With Very Special Thanks to Edward Enninful @edward_enninful 
• Shot on Location at https://www.theroofgardens.com/ 
• Technical Production by Copperbeach @copperbeachuk
• Creative Production Patrick Armstrong of Sidekick 
• Series Producer Camilla Morton 
• Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets Dame Darcey Bussell DBE – the celebrated Former Principal of The Royal Ballet and current President of the Royal Academy of Dance to discuss artistry, discipline, grace and perseverance in life – and her journey with dance. From the psychology, the all-immersive, physical and mental strength to the evolution of a dancer’s career, Darcey reflects on shift of identity, pushing through pain, retiring and reinvention as they discuss the pressures of perfection, motherhood, the importance movement, education, wellbeing and reinvention. 

Darcey Bussell is a former Principal Dancer of The Royal Ballet, renowned for her athletic yet lyrical style. She joined the company in 1988 and, in 1989, became their youngest ever Principal, at just 20 years old. She ‘retired’ from ballet in 2007 and pursued a successful career in television, and was a judge on Strictly Come Dancing from 2011 to 2018. In 1995 Bussell was appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the for services to ballet, in 2006 she was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) and in 2018 she was appointed Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire (DBE) for services to dance. She has written books and is involved in numerous charities and serves as the President of the Royal Academy of Dance and is the Creator of @diversedancemix.

About I’m Fine:
“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast — it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean Campbell. I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell is a safe space and platform where high-performance people talk honestly about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their outward success. Jean has navigated chronic pain since she was 12 years old, this experience inspired her to create I’m Fine to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan. 

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With Very Special Thanks to Natasha SilverBell
Technical Production by Copperbeach
Creative Production Patrick Armstrong of Sidekick Productions
Pre-Production Sophie Tall
Series Producer Camilla Morton
Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

This episode of I’m Fine Series Two is kindly supported by Natasha SilverBell and SilverBell Global https://silverbellglobal.com @Natasha SilverBell is the CEO and Founder of SilverBell Global, established in 2012 to provide informed care and attuned presence to individuals and families navigating the complexities of mental health. A thought leader and keynote speaker, Natasha curates dialogues with leading practitioners around mental health, wellbeing, and spirituality. She participated in the first Lord Mayor Global Family Office Summit at Mansion House, London, is an Ambassador for Partnership to End Addiction, and is the founder of the Megan Anne Foundation for survivors of domestic violence and co-founder of Inservice Foundation.

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets Mo Brings Plenty renowned Lakota actor, cultural advisor, advocate and rancher, widely recognized for his roles in Yellowstone and Jurassic World Dominion, to talk about pain, redemption, love and cultural healing. Mo Brings Plenty is deeply committed to authentic American Indian representation in media and the preservation of Indigenous cultures and traditions and continues to bring Indigenous voices to the forefront as the narrator of Leonardo DiCaprio’s acclaimed Sitting Bull documentary, which premiered in 2025 and shares the enduring legacy of one of history’s most revered
leaders.

Off-screen, Mo Brings Plenty is a passionate advocate for environmental and social justice. In April 2024, he received the prestigious New Horizon Award, a lifetime achievement honour at the Western Heritage Awards. In June 2025, Mo met King Charles III at SXSW London as part of the Love The Earth panel alongside Julian Lennon, representing Compassionate Studios and highlighting the power of storytelling to unite humanity and the natural world. Mo lives on a ranch in Kansas with his wife, Sara Ann, their nephew, 35 rescue animals, and 11 horses. Through his work and way of life, Mo continues to inspire reverence for Indigenous heritage and a deep respect for the bond between people, animals, and the land.

In this Conversation:

• How your upbringing, respect and honour for your ancestors will shape who you become.
• End each day asking: did I conduct myself in a way that makes God want to be in my presence. Hold yourself accountable.
• Nature shows us every day what rebirth, reality and spirituality is
• How the Lakota people honour their ancestors and culture through their braids
• How to hold the door open – from Taylor Sheridan and Yellowstone to being an advocate, creating opportunity, humanity and equality. We have more in common than we do in opposition. Pain helps us to protect. Fear is an illusion. Love is Endless. A true warrior protects
  rather than takes a life.
• The only thing we truly own is the destiny of our soul
  
  

About I’m Fine:

“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast, it’s a service. A space for the millions of people
navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean Campbell

I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell is a safe space and platform where high-performance people talk honestly, often humorously, about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their outward success. 

• With Very Special Thanks to Mo Brings Plenty
• With Gratitude to Meena Khera
• Shot on Location at The Store, Oxford  (www.thestoreoxford.com)
• This episode of I’m Fine Series Two is kindly supported by Natasha SilverBell and SilverBell Global https://silverbellglobal.com

@Natasha SilverBell is the CEO and Founder of SilverBell Global, established in 2012 to provide informed care and attuned presence to individuals and families navigating the complexities of mental health. A thought leader and keynote speaker, Natasha curates dialogues with leading practitioners around mental health, wellbeing, and spirituality. She participated in the first Lord Mayor's Global Family Office Summit at Mansion House, London, is an Ambassador for Partnership to End Addiction, and is the founder of the Megan Anne Foundationfor survivors of domestic violence and co-founder of 

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets with Amber Valletta, Supermodel, actress, Goodwill Ambassador for the United Nations Environment Programme to discover what it means to age with grace in an image driven culture. They explore what life experiences can teach us, how to redefine our own narrative and how perspective and acceptance can diminish suffering. Amber opens up about her journey, taking the stigma out of sobriety, discusses spirituality, mediation, and how true healing came through vulnerability and how education and empowering the sisterhood is the ultimate legacy. 

Amber Valletta is an American Supermodel, actress, mother and climate advocate. She first appeared on the cover of Vogue aged 17 and since then has featured on the covers of magazines around the global including Vogue, Harper’s Bazaar, Elle and Love, and appeared in campaigns for brands including Prada, Stella McCartney, Gucci, and Versace. Beyond fashion, Amber uses her platform to champion sustainability, the environment, mental health, and recovery awareness. Sober for more than 25 years, she speaks openly about addiction, self-acceptance, and the shifting standards of beauty and success. In addition to the UN she serves as a global ambassador for the Conscious Fashion Campaign, spokesperson for Oceana and remains a leading voice for positive change in the industry.

In this Conversation:

• How to redefine your narrative, how perspective and acceptance can empower you.
• Ask for help. Transform isolation into connection: vulnerability is a strength.
• Recovery: how longtime sobriety is Amber’s foundation for her creativity, peace, and purpose.
• Embrace every stage: women are life bearers, watch yourself change, age and step into your power
• The first half of life you take, in the second half you learn what to appreciate, and what you can give back
• Be educated, be mindful, be informed and stop minimising who you are.
• Life is circular, balance empathy for others with the wisdom of experience, find something greater thanoneself as a source of peace and resilience.

About I’m Fine:

“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast, it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean Campbell. 

I’m Fine is a Podcast hosted by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell is a safe space and platform where high-performance people talk honestly, often humorously, about their life experiences and healing as Jean explores the inner world behind their outward success. Jean has navigated chronic pain since she was 12 years old, this experience inspired her to create I’m Fine to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan.

With Very Special Thanks to Amber Valetta
Filmed by Podshop, with thanks to Producer Hailey Rovner Malach of Wicked Child Productions

• Edited by Copperbeach Productions
• Creative Production Patrick Armstrong of Sidekick Productions
• Series Producer Camilla Morton
• Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets Professor Giles Yeo MBE, leading geneticist at the University of Cambridge, to discuss one of the most talked-about drugs of our time: Ozempic. This conversation explores the science behind appetite, the promise and pitfalls of weight-loss drugs, as well as the cultural tensions between health, beauty, and privilege. From the biology of hunger to the social forces now shaping body image what does ‘health’ really means — and who gets to access it.

Dr. Giles Yeo MBE is a Molecular Neuroendocrinologist at the University of Cambridge, where he serves as Professor at the MRC Metabolic Diseases Unit and Scientific Director of the Genomics/Transcriptomics Core. His research focuses on the genetics of obesity, brain regulation of body weight and the hormonal signals that influence appetite. Beyond Academia, Giles is a prominent science communicator, known for presenting BBC Horizon documentaries including ‘Why Are We Getting So Fat?’ and ‘Clean Eating: The Dirty Truth’, and is the Author of ‘Gene Eating’ and ‘Why Calories Don’t Count’. In 2020 he was awarded an MBE for services to research, communication, and engagement (of what?), and Professor Yeo currently serves as Honorary President of the British Dietetic Association.

About I’m Fine:

“I’m Fine is more than a Podcast, it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean Campbell.

I’m Fine with Jean Campbell is hosted and created by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell, who has navigated chronic pain since the age of twelve. Through listening and learning to experts and experiences I’m Fine aims to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - and to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan.

Credits:

Post Production by Copperbeach @copperbeachuk
Creative Production by Patrick Armstrong @sidekick.prod
Produced by Wicked Child Studio & Podshop
Series Producer Camilla Morton
Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets acclaimed Choreographer and Director Holly Blakey, whose raw, poetic work explores vulnerability, empowerment, and transformation through movement. This episode explores how the body holds memory, how dance can become a language for healing, and why failure, discomfort, and joy can all coexist within the act of expression.

Holly Blakey is a British Choreographer and Director known for her boundary-pushing work across dance, art, music, and fashion. Her choreography has appeared in collaborations with Florence and the Machine, Rosalia, Yves Tumor, as well as with brands including Gucci, Dior, and Burberry. Winner of the UK MVA Award for Best Choreography in a Video, Holly’s distinct artistic language blends vulnerability with power, intimacy with spectacle. On stage and screen, her work probes what it means to live embodied, to face pain and failure, and to
transform them into beauty.

In this Conversation:

• Holly shares her personal journey that led to the creation of her work ‘A Wound with Teeth’
• How confronting trauma empowered the possibility of rewriting the story.
• How dance communicates as a language beyond words, with shape, nuance and paradox.
• On Redefining Pain: from ‘monsters we live with’ to signals of truth and possibility.
• Failure and Fear is a gift: how mistakes and setbacks can guide authentic creativity.
• Movement as liberation: from daily gestures to cathartic rehearsal rooms.
• Using dance as protest, presence, and a tool for recovery both personal and collective.

About I’m Fine:

"'I'm Fine is more than a Podcast, it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean Campbell. 

I’m Fine with Jean Campbell is hosted and created by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell, who has navigated chronic pain since the age of twelve. Through listening and learning to experts and experiences I’m Fine aims to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - and to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan.

• Technical Production by Copperbeach @copperbeachuk
• Creative Production by Patrick Armstrong @sidekick.prod
• Pre-Production Sophie Tall
• Series Producer Camilla Morton
• Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

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I’m Fine hosted by Jean Campbell meets world-renowned Dr. Deepak Chopra Consciousness Expert, Bestselling Author and Pioneer in integrative medicine and personal transformation. In this conversation Dr. Deepak Chopra and Jean Campbell explore one of life’s most universal experiences: Pain.

Dr. Deepak Chopra MD, FACP, FRCP “One of the top 100 most influential people” TIME Magazine @deepakchopra is the Indian American author, physician and global leader in integrative medicine and personal transformation. A pioneer of the mind-body-spirit movement, he has written more than 90 books translated into over 40 languages, with many appearing on the New York Times bestseller list. Dr. Chopra’s work bridges ancient wisdom traditions and modern science, offering pathways into meditation, holistic health, and self-realization. He is the founder of The Chopra Foundation and Chopra Global, dedicated to wellbeing and humanitarian initiatives worldwide and is co-founder of DeepakChopra.ai, his AI twin and well-being advisor, as well as co-founder of Cyberhuman.ai and has just launched the official Deepak Chopra Membership for conscious living. 

Link: Deepak Chopra Membership

In this Conversation:

• Pain within consciousness
• The physical versus the psychological and the internal dialogue
• Introspective awareness - the separate self, the whole self and finding a deeper level of awareness
• The vagus nerve - understanding emotional and physical Information
• The future of mind body practices – the electro and meta surgical and mixed reality
• fear of death - the avoidance of pain to embracing of pain
• The spiritual practice of self-awareness – empathy, compassion and healing

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About I’m Fine:

"'I'm Fine is more than a Podcast, it’s a service. A space for the millions of people navigating pain in silence, often without the resources or language we all deserve. The world isn’t set up to support people in pain and we want to help change that.” Jean Campbell. 

I’m Fine with Jean Campbell is hosted and created by Model, Writer and Mental Health Advocate Jean Campbell, who has navigated chronic pain since the age of twelve. Through listening and learning to experts and experiences I’m Fine aims to help reshape the stigma around pain - emotional, physical, and mental - and to give a voice to the many who hide behind the words: ‘I’m Fine’. The series features conversations about mental health, identity, resilience, and how we cope when life doesn’t go to plan.

With Very Special Thanks to Deepak Chopra @deepakchopra

With Gratitude to Meena Khera Advisor to Dr. Deepak Chopra @meenakhera444

Shot on Location at The Londoner Hotel

Technical Production by Copperbeach @copperbeachuk

Creative Production by Patrick Armstrong @patrickearmstrong @sidekick.prod

Pre-Production Sophie Tall

Series Producer Camilla Morton

Founder and Executive Producer Jean Campbell

I’m Fine Series Two is kindly supported by Natasha SilverBell and SilverBell Global

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This is the third episode in a collaborative series between I’m Fine podcast and the Medical Research Foundation.

In today’s conversation, Jean Campbell - who discusses her own experience of living with chronic pelvic pain - is joined by Professor Katy Vincent, an NHS consultant gynaecologist and leading researcher at the University of Oxford – to unpack the staggering scale and impact of pelvic pain in women and girls.

From untreated period pain in adolescence to endometriosis, painful sex, and fertility, they explore why women’s pain is still so often ignored, misdiagnosed, or minimised — and what needs to change in both healthcare and research.

The Medical Research Foundation is at the forefront of tackling often-overlooked health challenges, from chronic pain to areas of medical health that don’t receive the attention they deserve. Find out more about our mission: https://www.medicalresearchfoundation.org.uk/

Resources and research:

Understanding the long-term effects of period pain - https://www.medicalresearchfoundation.org.uk/news/understanding-the-long-term-effects-of-period-pain

Pain in Women research at Oxford - https://www.wrh.ox.ac.uk/research/roadpain

IMI-PainCare - https://www.imi-paincare.eu/

UCL Reproductive Health Policy Research - https://www.ucl.ac.uk/health/health-policy-ucl/policy-research-unit-reproductive-health

https://www.endometriosis-uk.org

https://www.pelvicpain.org.uk

https://www.painful-bladder.org

https://drchatterjee.com 

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Sponsored by: Medical Research Foundation

Host: Jean Campbell

Guest: Professor Professor Katy Vincent 

Executive Producer: Jean Campbell

Producer: Wicked Child Studio, Hailey Rovner Malach

Composer: Eduoardo Vella  

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This is the second episode in a collaborative series between I’m Fine podcast and the Medical Research Foundation.

In today’s conversation, Jean Campbell speaks to Dr Joni Coleman, Senior Lecturer in Statistical Genetics at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience, King’s College London, about depression and how factors such as genetics, environment and trauma shape mental health.

 *Please note that Joni is not a clinician, so his comments shouldn’t be interpreted as clinical opinion.

The Medical Research Foundation is at the forefront of tackling often-overlooked health challenges, from chronic pain to areas of medical health that don’t receive the attention they deserve. Your support can help fund groundbreaking medical research to transform lives: https://www.medicalresearchfoundation.org.uk

Resources: 

• Primer on major depressive disorder: https://europepmc.org/article/med/37620370
• Lancet-WPA Commission: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35180424/

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Sponsored by: Medical Research Foundation

Host: Jean Campbell

Guest: Dr. Joni Coleman 

Executive Producer: Jean Campbell

Producer: Wicked Child Studio, Hailey Rovner Malach

Composer: Eduoardo Vella