A conversation with Shawn Yeager and Derek Ross at the Imagine If conference in Nashville, TN. We discuss the current state of digital communications and identity with a specific focus on nostr.

Date: September 20, 2025

Shawn on Nostr: https://primal.net/shawn
Derek on Nostr: https://primal.net/derekross
Bitcoin Park on Nostr: https://primal.net/park
Imagine If: https://bitcoinpark.com/imagineif

(00:40) Future of digital comms, identity, social

(01:41) Diagnosing the problems: incentives, KYC, and broken trust

(03:05) Censorship, shadow bans, and owning your social graph

(05:00) AI, deepfakes, and can we trust what we see?

(07:24) Algorithmic control vs user choice

(10:10) Introducing Nostr: open protocol, healthier engagement

(11:54) Digital health, doomscrolling, and parenting challenges

(15:21) Youth safety on open protocols: responsibilities and tools

(18:22) Give parents the tools: OS-level controls and UX

(19:35) Getting started with Nostr: keys, Primal, and UX spectrum

(21:17) Vibe-coding apps: Soapbox/Shakespeare on Nostr + Bitcoin

(22:39) Permissionless payments and AI-built sites

Video:  https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs0v7rgjh55wygwuc8pmqvk0qz6qts30uaut2c8lp4dgh9usw2cdpgnznwd9

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