Today’s episode features a conversation with Jarrod McKenna that initially aired on Instagram live and was just TOO GOOD to not share with the Zeitcast family.

Most of you are familiar with our good friend Jarrod. He is the co-host of Inverse Podcast, a preacher, peace activist, and close personal friend of Jonathan’s. One night while discussing a recent interview given by Rick Joyner, the leader of Morning Star Ministries, Jonathan and Jarrod caught fire. They decided to go live on Instagram to share some thoughts regarding the dangerous nature of Joyner’s statement, as well as give an invitation to what a Jesus centered ethic might look like in this particular context.

The conversation was absolutely teeming with life and the fire that often happens when these two get together.

We know you will enjoy it! And if you haven’t yet, please make sure to go subscribe to Inverse Podcast with Jarrod McKenna and Dr. Drew Hart.

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Edited and produced by Joel Everson