I first “met” Noah a couple of years ago when he asked to interview me on one of his podcasts. I wasn’t familiar with him but he was very personable and I liked his interview style. The session went extremely well.

And the next day my numbers blew up on social media.

Turns out that Noah Kagan has a kijillion followers, some of whom are on other planets, that’s how extensive his “reach” is. He’s been at the startups of some of the most famous internet outfits, and been fired by most of them! He’s created eight-figure businesses and frankly admits, “I wanted to make money to prove I was successful.”

When I asked how he knew a woman he was dating wasn’t attracted to him merely because of his money he said, “I don’t really care, whatever!”

More recently he invited me to be on a wonderful series of videos he hosted on “retired millionaires in their 80s.” I only meet one of those three criteria, but there I was amidst inventors and astronauts, and to this day people write me telling me how much they enjoyed that show and my contributions.

Noah doesn’t use much of a biographical sketch (Noah Kagan was #30 at Facebook, #4 at Mint and has since created four multi-million dollar businesses. He founded AppSumo.com—daily deals for entrepreneurs—and has a popular YouTube channel for startups, Noah Kagan Presents), which is appropriate for a brilliant guy working very much in the present (and future). He’s exciting, innovative, and quite frank.

Which leads me to comment that this discussion contains significant profanity. To edit it out would be to alter the nature of the discussion, and it’s a very honest discussion.