In the Shadows of Utopia: The Khmer Rouge and the Cambodian Nightmare

In the Shadows of Utopia: The Khmer Rouge and the Cambodian Nightmare

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  • S3 Ep1: The Invasion (Part One): Counting Bodies Floating Down the Mekong

    In April 1970, bodies began drifting down the Mekong into South Vietnam. They were ethnic Vietnamese civilians, killed by the forces of a Cambodian government that had held power for a matter of weeks. The new regime had declared war on an army it could not fight, and turned on the people it could reach instead.

    Time Period Covered: April 1970

    What was the crisis facing the new Cambodian government in April 1970? Why were the Vietnamese communities subjected to massacres? What circumstances led to a US invasion of Cambodia?

    In this episode Lachlan explores the horrible aftermath of the coup against Sihanouk, as a panicked new regime produces a pogrom against an innocent group of civilians. The communist Vietnamese armies take much of the countryside. Journalists disappear as they report on a Vietnam War that has spilled over the border. The Nixon White House faces a decision.

    Sources

    Chandler “Tragedy of Cambodian History”
    Short “Pol Pot”
    Shawcross “Sideshow”
    Kamm “Report from a Stricken Land”
    Sak Satsukhan “The Khmer Republic at War”
    Wilfred Deac “Road to the Killing Fields”
    Walter Isaacson “Kissinger”
    Kiernan “How Pol Pot Came to Power”
    Etcheson “Rise and Demise of Democratic Kampuchea”

    1 hr 23 min
  • S2 Ep19: Season 2 Recap - Cambodian History from Independence to Civil War

    Season Two covers fifteen years and more than thirty hours, from a newly independent Cambodia in 1955 to the coup that ends Sihanouk's rule in March 1970. This episode is the whole arc in one sitting.

    Time Period Covered: 1955 to 1970

    How does the Communist Party of Kampuchea form, and how does a schoolteacher named Saloth Sar end up leading it?

    What happened to Tou Samouth?

    Why did the Khmer Rouge want a 'super great leap forward', and what did the original one do to China?

    What does Theravada Buddhism have to do with communist ideology?

    Why did Sihanouk cut off the United States, and why did he change his mind?

    How did the Vietnam War begin, and how did Cambodia get pulled into it?

    What was the Samlaut Rebellion, and who actually started it?

    How does a communist movement with almost no weapons decide to start a war?

    What happened at Hue and My Lai in 1968?

    Why did Nixon bomb a neutral country in secret?

    Were the CIA behind the coup against Sihanouk?

    This recap is for anyone who wants a refresher before Season Three, or a way into the series without listening to fifteen years of history in full. It covers the formation and slow growth of the Cambodian communist movement, the ideological currents reaching Cambodia from Moscow and Beijing, the collapse of the American position in Vietnam and its spread across the border, and the political unravelling that ends with Sihanouk deposed and the country at war with itself.

    1 hr 7 min
  • S2 Ep18: A Cambodian Coup: The Fall of Sihanouk

    On March 18th, 1970, while Norodom Sihanouk was abroad, the Cambodian National Assembly voted unanimously to remove him from power. The men behind it expected to stabilise the country. Within weeks Sihanouk had joined a resistance front alongside the communists he had spent years hunting, and Cambodia was in a civil war it would not survive intact.

    Time Period Covered: 1969 to 1970

    Were the CIA responsible for the coup against Sihanouk? Why did Lon Nol and Sirik Matak finally make a move against the prince? What did Sihanouk's removal from power mean for the Khmer Rouge?

    In the final episode of this season, Lachlan covers the circumstances surrounding the plot to remove Norodom Sihanouk from his position as head of state. Lon Nol and Sirik Matak will take advantage of the problem of Vietnamese troop presence on Cambodian land and turn it into a political necessity to oust the prince. They would make several miscalculations, and the plan would largely backfire, as Sihanouk joins a resistance front with who he thinks are the Khmer Rouge, as well as the Vietnamese, and receives Chinese aid. Lon Nol's new government will have to resort to terrible measures to try and deliver on their promises.

    Sources

    Chandler “Tragedy of Cambodian History” and “Brother Number One”
    Short “Pol Pot”
    Shawcross “Sideshow”
    Heder “Cambodian Communism”
    Sihanouk “My War With The CIA”
    Osbourne “Sihanouk”
    Jagel “Khmer Nationalist”
    Haing Ngor “Survival in the Killing Fields”
    Kamm “Report from a Stricken Land”


    1 hr 56 min
  • S2 Ep17: Death From Above 1969: Operation Menu and Nixon's Secret Bombing of Cambodia

    In March 1969, American B-52s began bombing Cambodia, a neutral country, in an operation so secret that even the Air Force's own reporting system was falsified to hide it. The campaigns were codenamed Breakfast, Lunch, Snack, Dinner, Dessert and Supper. The menu would run for fourteen months.

    Time Period Covered: 1968 to 1969

    How did Cambodia become the 'key' to Nixon's plan to end the Vietnam War? What was the secret bombing of Cambodia? How many bombs did the US drop on Cambodia? What factors led to the end of Sihanouk's leadership of the country?

    In this episode Lachlan looks at the gradually degrading situation in Cambodia, and the destabilisation prior to a change in the White House that will only make matters worse. We look at Sihanouk's movies, the Cambodian economy, and the Khmer Rouge as they continue their 'armed struggle' across the country. Nixon's ascension to power is explored, his plans for a quick end to the Vietnam War, and the role Cambodia could play in producing this. The bombing, done in secret, is explained, as well as some comments on the general discourse around the idea of 'bombs over Cambodia' and the correction Kiernan made in his cowritten article.

    Check out the YouTube Channel at https://youtu.be/8QdRvpbMr_w?si=vTEurMs6dDEmjjHI

    Sources

    Short “Pol Pot”
    Chandler “Tragedy of Cambodian History”
    Shawcross “Sideshow”
    Mark Atwood Lawrence “Concise History of the Vietnam War”
    Kiernan “How Pol Pot Came To Power”
    Osbourne “Sihanouk”
    Heder “Cambodian Communism and the Vietnamese Model”

    Article Links

    https://quillette.com/2023/12/07/kissinger-and-cambodia/

    https://gsp.yale.edu/case-studies/cambodian-genocide-program/us-involvement/united-states-bombing-cambodia-1965-1973

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    https://www.patreon.com/shadowsofutopia


    2 hr 3 min
  • S2 Ep16: Interview: "Rendez-vous avec Pol Pot" with Elizabeth Becker
    How many journalists were able to set foot in Cambodia before the revolution, during the revolution and after the revolution?

    Not many.

    Elizabeth Becker is one of those people. In 1973 she began covering the war in Cambodia, in 1978 she was part of a three person delegation which saw the first western journalists to enter into Democratic Kampuchea. There she was witness to, as she describes it a "Twilight Zone" version of Cambodia.

    She also met Pol Pot.

    The end of her trip ended in tragedy as one member of the delegation was murdered the same night.

    A fictionalised version of that story is the subject of Rithy Panh's new film Rendez-vous avec Pol Pot, and I got to speak to Elizabeth about her newest book "You Don't Belong Here", as well as her story and work in Cambodia, witnessing the effects of the 1973 US bombing campaign, her tour of Democratic Kampuchea and much more.

    Please Note

    At the beginning of the interview, Elizabeth references a review by David Chandler from 1987 and what it meant to hear this critique in the Khmer Rouge Tribunals. She also gives her reasoning behind why she thinks that criticism was given. I had failed to mention to her before the interview or at the time that I had worked with David previously, which I regret. However, I feel it is necessary to mention that Chandler had later recommended "When the War Was Over" in his 'top five books' that someone should read about Cambodia. This was amongst high praise and the reasons he gave for his initially critical review in the late 80s:

    "She manages to tell the dramatic sides, the painful aspects, she builds up a very clear and moving picture. She worked in Cambodia in the early 1970s so she got a feel for the country, she understood what had been damaged and how people were affected. It is a very effective book and I believe that it will stand up to the test of time. I had reservations initially because she wasn’t an insider, and like so many writers she goes into the story through the dark side of the Khmers, the spooky nature of the land and people- in this way foreshadowing Philip Short. I don’t buy into that at all. It’s a small reservation I have, but otherwise this is a wonderful book."

    That recommendation can be found at https://fivebooks.com/best-books/best-books-cambodia/



    Please visit https://www.patreon.com/shadowsofutopia to watch the video of the interview.

    1 hr 18 min
  • S2 Ep15: Tet (Part Two): The My Lai Massacre

    On the morning of March 16th, 1968, the soldiers of Charlie Company entered the hamlet of My Lai expecting to meet a Viet Cong battalion. They met villagers eating breakfast. Over the next four hours, more than 500 civilians were killed. Nobody fired at the Americans that morning, and only one man ever went to prison.

    Time Period Covered: December 1967 to March 1968

    What role does the Tet Offensive play in the My Lai Massacre? What circumstances in troop deployment and officer training influenced what happened? Why were more than 500 civilians murdered by Charlie Company?

    In this episode, Lachlan confronts the horrors that occurred in My Lai on the 16th of March 1968. He attempts to answer why more than 500 civilians were killed, what the context of these killings was, as well as the role that officers such as William Calley had in producing the massacre.

    For Photos and Maps of the My Lai Assault please visit https://www.shadowsofutopia.com/episodes/tet-part-two-the-my-lai-massacre

    ** Be advised of a mistake in the episode. Hugh Thompson did not receive the "Medal of Honour", but a US Army Soldier's Medal. I meant this as a generality but forgot there is a genuine "Congressional Medal of Honour". Apologies. **

    Sources

    The Peers Inquiry of the Massacre at My Lai 1970
    Edward Miller The Vietnam War: A Documentary Reader
    William Thomas Allison My Lai
    The Vietnam War Geoffrey War and Ken Burns
    The Vietnam War Mark Atwood Lawrence
    Anatomy of US and South Korean Massacres In the Year of the Monkey Heonik Kwon

    2 hr 20 min
  • S2 Ep14: Interview: "Prisoners of Class" with Matt Madden
    Lachlan sits down with Matt Madden, translator of Chan Samoeun’s Prisoners of Class. The book, having been recently released in English for the first time, is an amazing example of a Khmer Rouge survivor memoir.

    They discuss Matt’s journey in finding the original book, meeting the author and translating it over many years. The book itself, including amazing details and descriptions of the world of the ‘life slave’ in Democratic Kampuchea, are discussed and thought about, as well as the contributions to the work that Matt has produced.

    Please go out and get yourself a copy of the book, the best place to do so is from https://www.mekongriverpress.com/ where you can preview the book, get access to the supplementary material, as well as purchase various editions. 
     
    Please take the time to leave a rating or review wherever you get it from! 

    1 hr 19 min
  • S2 Ep13: Tet (Part One): The Battle of Hue

    In the early hours of January 31st, 1968, communist forces attacked more than a hundred cities and towns across South Vietnam at once. In Hue, the old imperial capital, they stayed for four weeks. When the city was retaken, mass graves held the bodies of at least 2,800 civilians.

    Time Period Covered: 1968

    What did the Tet Offensive achieve? How was the Battle of Hue waged? Why were almost 3,000 people murdered by the Viet Cong?

    This episode covers the Tet Offensive of early 1968. Lachlan links the media coverage of the event, with the extreme scenes in Saigon, to the reality of the offensive and what the communists hoped to achieve. In Hue, perhaps the most stunning battle of the offensive took place, as for four weeks the city was occupied by the NVA and NLF. During this time, as a brutal campaign of house-to-house combat took place, the communists embarked upon a reign of terror to reshape the city they had taken.

    Sources

    Edward Miller The Vietnam War: A Documentary Reader
    Nha Ca Mourning Headband For Hue
    The Vietnam War Geoffrey War and Ken Burns
    The Vietnam War Mark Atwood Lawrence
    Vietnam Max Hastings
    The Viet-Cong Strategy of Terror Douglas Pike
    Hue Mark Bowden

    1 hr 32 min
  • S2 Ep12: The Cambodian Civil War Begins - Part Two: A Revolution Waged With Empty Hands

    On January 17th, 1968, the Khmer Rouge attacked a military post at Bay Damram in Battambang province. It was the official beginning of their armed struggle, launched by a movement with almost no weapons. The phrase they used for it was a revolution waged with empty hands.

    Time Period Covered: 1967 to 1968

    How did the CPK develop their plan to genuinely start a war in Cambodia? Why did Sihanouk seek rapprochement with the United States? How did the bombing of Cambodia begin?

    January 1968 will prove to be a pivotal month for Vietnamese, Cambodian and American interests in the war. This episode details how the Cambodian communist movement finally began an armed struggle against the Sihanouk government, how the United States negotiated a deal to bomb Cambodia, and how the Vietnamese began a counter attack against the Saigon regime.

    Sources

    Philip Short Pol Pot: History of a Nightmare
    David Chandler The Tragedy of Cambodian History & Brother Number One
    Ben Kiernan How Pol Pot Came to Power and Peasants & Politics in Kampuchea
    Milton Osbourne Sihanouk
    Steve Heder Cambodian Communism and the Vietnamese Model
    Elizabeth Becker When the War was Over
    Nic Dunlop Lost Executioner
    ECCC Case 001 Witness Testimony 2009
    Shawcross Sideshow: Kissinger, Nixon, and the Destruction of Cambodia
    CIA FOIA

    1 hr 52 min
  • S2 Ep11: Mao's Cultural Revolution: Red Guards and a Model for the Khmer Rouge

    Between 1966 and 1969, teenagers with armbands beat their teachers to death in Chinese schoolyards, and roughly a million people died at the hands of their own countrymen. Mao had asked for it. Less than a decade later, the Khmer Rouge would put children in charge of adults for reasons that were not unrelated.

    Time Period Covered: 1964 to 1969

    What led to Mao's launching of a 'cultural revolution' in the People's Republic? What were the aims of this movement? Why did perhaps a million people die at the hands of their countrymen in less than four years?

    In what could be considered a belated part two to the episode introducing Maoism and the Great Leap Forward, Lachlan revisits China and attempts to explain the Cultural Revolution. Officially launched in 1966, this period of chaos, an example of a cult of personality being used to destroy a system and replace it with a kind of perpetual revolution, would lead China into a near state of anarchy.

    Radical young Maoists, organised into groups of Red Guards, terrorised those they considered insufficiently loyal to the ideological mandate set by Mao.

     
    Sources

    Philip Short Mao
    Frank Dikotter The Cultural Revolution: A People's History
    Andrew Walder China Under Mao
    Richard Baum Lecture Series

    1 hr 12 min

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