In episode 590 of Lawyerist Podcast, learn how practical, everyday AI can help lawyers work smarter—not harder. Zack Glaser sits down with Graydon Trusler, a practical AI specialist and longtime law-firm operations pro, to explore how attorneys can use “productive laziness” to eliminate repetitive tasks, streamline case management, and reclaim valuable time. Graydon shares real examples from his family law firm, including how custom AI assistants help review discovery, prep hearings, analyze documents, and even support lawyers in the courtroom. Together, they break down privacy concerns, adoption hurdles, and simple ways to start using AI without getting overwhelmed.

Discover why AI isn’t a distant future—it’s a powerful tool lawyers can start using today to improve workflows, reduce stress, and deliver better results for clients. 

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Chapters / Timestamps:  

00:00 – Introduction 

08:45 – Meet Graydon 

11:10 – Practical AI in Law Firms 

16:40 – Myths, Fears & Privacy 

19:00 – Real AI Workflows 

23:00 – Productive Laziness 

31:00 – AI in the Courtroom 

34:45 – Faster Discovery & SOPs 

38:50 – Flat Fees & the Future 

45:13 – Closing Thoughts