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About this week's guest: Allie Lehman is the founder of Wonderly, a design and development studio. She also writes Huge Fan, a publication about fandom and business (it's part storytelling, part strategy, and always about the way fans shape what lasts).

She's also an artist and illustrator and serves on the board of All People Arts.

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New session: Starting A Well-Being Garden Where you can find Allie:WonderlyHuge FanIllustrations Things we talked about: American Iris SocietyNorth American Lily Society American Daffodil SocietyNational Chrysanthemum Society American Begonia Society American Peony Society The Story Behind Wayfair via Business InsiderZingerman's Community of Businesses Zingerman's Olive Oils To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

About this week's guest: Clare is the Garden Editor at House & Garden magazine and a freelance garden journalist. After starting her career in book publishing, she spent nine years at Gardens Illustrated magazine (1996-2005), latterly as Editor. As well as writing about plants and gardens, Clare has always gardened herself, first on an allotment in London, and now in her garden in West Berkshire. She is the author of six books including most recently Pastoral Gardens (2024, Montgomery Press) and writes a weekly column on Substack. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The WebsiteMyles Trudell Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Clare: WebsiteHouse & GardenCreate AcademyPastoral GardensSubstackInstagram Knepp Castle Garden by Tom Stuart-SmithSalvia 'Phyllis' Fancy'Slow HorsesChrysanthemumsRHS Find your hardiness / growing zone here To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

About this week's guest: Amelia is a feminist writer, podcaster and producer. She is the founder of Softer Sounds podcast studio, and the host of Off the Grid, a podcast about leaving social media. Her new book, Your Attention is Sacred Except on Social Media is out in fall 2025. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The WebsiteMyles Trudell Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Amelia: WebsiteOff The Grid podcastSofter SoundsYour Attention is Sacred (Except on Social Media)

How To Do Nothing: Resisting The Attention Economy BandcampFree Little LibraryTen Arguments For Leaving Your Social Media Account Right Now Find your hardiness / growing zone here To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

About this week's guest: Marisa is a journalist and New York Times best selling author. She's covered beauty, fashion, wellness, and celebrity for top national publications such as The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, Vogue, and Vanity Fair. She is the author of It Girl, Glossy, This Is Big, How Sassy Changed My Life, and Girl Power. This week's sponsor: Semaine Use code INSIDEOUTSIDE20 for 20% off Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter The French Gardening Craze, 1908-1914 Horticulture, politics and the media in Edwardian Britain Where you can find Marisa: Website Marisa's IGIt Girl: The Life and Legacy of Jane BirkinGlossy: Ambition, Beauty, and the Inside Story of Emily Weiss's Glossier Irish Blood on Acorn TV Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

About this week's guest: Kerrilyn is an author and founder of CAP Beauty. Show notes! Sign up for the Basker Virtual Group Session on October 26th This week's sponsor: Semaine Use code INSIDEOUTSIDE20 for 20% off Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Kerrilyn: CAP Beauty CAP Beauty IG Kerrilyn IG Serotoner Purina x Purple Leash Project Republicans Want to Ban Pets From Domestic Violence Shelters via Mother Jones Psychophysiological Responses of Cut Flower Fragrances as an Olfactory Stimulation by Measurement of Electroencephalogram in Adults Carnations! Seeds from Johnny'sPlants from Bluestone Perennials Stolen Focus: Why You Can't Pay Attention--and How to Think Deeply Again Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers To advertise on the podcast: [email protected]

About this week's guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it. Show notes! This week's sponsor: It's Love Y'all Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Ally: Personal styling siteSubstack The Joy of birds: the effect of rating for joy or counting garden bird species on wellbeing, anxiety, and nature connection Birding With Benefits by Sarah T Dubbs DOC trailer Cut Flower Class at Redux Contemporary Art Center The Paper Canopy

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Jules is a natural farmer, soil researcher, and garden educator based in New Orleans. His background includes school gardening, cannabis cultivation, worm-based composting & large-scale organic food production. He currently works at Rosy Soil where he formulates peat-free, biochar-based potting soils that are organic, high quality and sustainably produced.

Show notes! This week's sponsor: It's Love Y'all Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Jules: TikTok InstagramRosy Soil The Surprising Ways Soil Can Aid Our Mental Health Come by Here: A Memoir in Essays from Georgia's Geechee Coast by Neesha Powell-Ingabire Red Foliated White Cotton from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange No Dig Gardening Mole Cricket Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cool Season Flowers

About this week's guest: Ochuko is the writer and marketer behind as seen on, a newsletter about business, culture, and gen z trends. She lives between Lagos and Europe. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Ochuko's Newsletter: As Seen On Neighborhood attachment and its correlates: Exploring neighborhood conditions, collective efficacy, and gardening Find your hardiness / growing zone here Cool Season Cut Flower Sessions

About this week's guest: Michelle and her recipes have become a staple in home cooking around the globe since the publication of her first book in 2014 which was an instant #1 New York Times best-seller. She has 5 bestselling cookbooks, published in over 8 different languages. She headed an award-winning brand, Bad Manners for 12 years and now heading up her own weekly newsletter, Stir the Pot. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Michelle's Book: Hungry As Hell (the book with the mac n' cheese recipe!) Website Newsletter: Stir The PotIG Understanding Food Literacy in Urban Gardeners: A Case Study of the Twin Cities, Minnesota The Moth Snowstorm by Michael McCarthy One Of Them Days Find your hardiness / growing zone here Learn To Grow Cut Flowers

About this week's guest: Karen Azoulay is a Canadian born, Brooklyn-based artist and author. Inspired by "feminine" motifs, she explores cultural phenomena that have historically been overlooked with the purpose of recontextualizing and championing them. Karen's projects have been featured in publications such as the New York Times, New Yorker, Hyperallergic, and Vogue. Her book Flowers and Their Meanings, The Secret Language and History of Over 600 Blooms was selected by Barnes & Noble as one of the best books of 2023.

Show notes! This week's sponsor: Week Of The Website Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Karen's Book: Flowers and Their Meanings Website Newsletter: Flowers and Their MeaningsIG Observing versus creating flowers: a review of relevance for art therapy Gomprehna seeds

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