Jesse and Mike are here to discuss the major news of Ryan Hoge stepping into an expanded role as president of PSA grading. They discuss what it means for the company and what new directions he is looking to take things. They are then joined by Brian Walders to talk about his ascent in the breaking business and what it takes to start from nothing and make a name for yourself.

Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson
Guests: Ryan Hoge and Brian Walders
Producer: Steve Ahlman

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