Dancer and choreographer of RuPaul’s Drag Race (and about a hundred music videos whose choreography you know by heart) Jamal Sims joins us from the sweltering Valley in the dead center of a heat wave to talk about the upcoming Emmys, Janet Jackson, Expose and SWV, the dance masterclass scene in Los Angeles, high school football, a big start in the industry via Puttin’ On The Hits, remembering the time he was in Michael Jackson’s Remember The Time video, a pandemic hike that made him say “I’m gonna marry that man,” and the mystical qualities of a borrowed RuPaul suit.