Jefferson Fisher could be the male version of Mel Robbins. He is part of the billion-dollar self-help industry fuelled by podcasts, books, TED talks and TikTok therapy - all promising how to be the best version of yourself.

He’s the Texan lawyer teaching us how to communicate better, navigate conflict with class and tell if someone’s lying.

In this chat with Antoinette Lattouf, Jefferson unpacks society’s obsession with self-help, what’s driving our hunger for personal growth and why Australian’s are his biggest fans.

Weekend list with Helen Smith

• TO LISTEN: The Moment it Changed: Touchdown
• TO DO: Visit your local state library
• TO LISTEN: Lamestream the podcast
• TO WATCH: Derry Girls on Netflix

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