This episode of SANDCAST features John Mayer and Billy Allen, hosts of the Coach Your Brains Out podcast as well as coaches in NCAA Beach Volleyball. Mayer is the head coach at LMU, leading the Lions to six straight WCC titles and a berth in the National Championship. Allen is an assistant at Stanford, helping the Cardinal to a single season wins record and an MPSF Championship. With the NCAA season over, they chat about:

- How to navigate the art of playing time vs. winning at all costs (hint: nobody knows)

- Billy Allen's recent entertaining run through AVP Huntington Beach with Taylor Crabb

- John Mayer reflecting on the most successful season to date with LMU - Travis Mewhirter's first season at Florida State and what he learned

SHOOTS!

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