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0:00 Happy 60th, John!

2:20 2020 in hindsight

12:05 Ground News ad

14:01 Are Glenn and John helping to shift the Overton window?

18:25 Is Charlie Kirk the George Floyd of the right?

29:53 Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates’s conversation about Kirk

34:14 Glenn’s new book idea

41:43 Kirk’s comments on Michelle Obama, Ketanji Brown Jackson, and Joy Reid

48:05 The purging of the woke remnant

51:33 The responsibilities of the black intellectual

58:27 Glenn: There is meaning in blackness

Recorded October 6, 2025

Links and Readings

Glenn and John’s first discussion of George Floyd, from May 2020

Pete Hegseth’s speech before US military leadership

The Trump administration’s “Compact for Academic Excellence in Higher Education”

Thomas Chatterton Williams’s Atlantic essay, “The Other Martyr”

Glenn’s October 3rd livestream, with Nikita Petrov and Robert Patton-Spruill

Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates’s NYT conversation following the assassination of Charlie Kirk

Coates’s 2015 Atlantic essay, “Letter to My Son”

Glenn’s recent conversation with Jason Riley on the life and work of Thomas Sowell

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